My argument with my brother...

[MsDazzler]

I live with my brother, and we have always been having those arguments... I just got fed up with it today and I thought I'd get your opinions... So next time he brings it up, I may have additional information from you guys to dish out at him...

I m not the clean freak type... I am messy... I dont mean I m a total pigtsy... I do clean up my room, the bathroom, etc.... I just don't do it immediately or as often as my brother would like... And he keeps saying, "You arent acting like a woman! Women are clean!", every time he nags me to clean and we fight over cleaning.

I am like, "Huh? You r stereotyping women... There are some messy women out there. And there are female roommates who fight with each other over cleanilness issues." I just think cleaniness has nothing to do with masculinity or femininity, it susually a presonality issue.

He also continues to critcize other aspects of me,s aying that I was not behaving like a transgender girl. I retort that I only started transitioning recently and it is hard to just overthrow years and years of male conditioning and turn into a female instantly. But he still is bullheaded and thinks I am still a man internally. Ughhh!!

An example is that he says taht I should be more "sensitive" and "passive"... I told him that he s boxing me into the stereotype of the perfect woman, and just becuz I failed to meet his standards, thus I m not a Tgirl. What the fuck, huh?

What can you help me say it to an ignorant bigot like my brother??

[Breena]

There certainly are plenty of real women who are very messy! Although as a generality women tend to be more neat and clean. I think it is unfair and manipulative of your brother to say things like "your not acting like a woman or a tgirl"
He should know that you will be a little unsure of yourself while transitioning and it is really "unbrotherlike" to use that against you in an attempt to shape your behavior.
I would ask him to stop with those comments; If he wants you to be neater then he could just say; " it bothers me that you wait several hours, days, weeks? to wash your dishes" without gender being an issue.

:? Breena

[Harajuku Tgirl]

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[TSMorena35]

Stereotyping women as clean, organized, sensitive, passive etc is OLD SCHOOL. Not all women are like that.
I agree.........furthermore those are just control tactics that men use on all of us GG's and TS..........Too Fat, too thin, too tall, too short, too effeminate, not effeminate enough, too much ass not enough ass.......I'd like to know who's passing out that book to men that has them thinking there is only ONE way to be a woman of any kind. That's simply not true....we are all different human beings who come from different environments, have different life experiences, and have different ways of thinking and seeing the world.
Love whatever Higher power you believe in, then love yourself....and then love the rest...in that order........Don't let anyone be they friend family or foe define you.......Define Yourself for Yourself... :wink:
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[kalina]

I m not the clean freak type... I am messy... I dont mean I m a total pigtsy... I do clean up my room, the bathroom, etc.... I just don't do it immediately or as often as my brother would like... And he keeps saying, "You arent acting like a woman! Women are clean!", every time he nags me to clean and we fight over cleaning.
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He also continues to critcize other aspects of me,s aying that I was not behaving like a transgender girl. I retort that I only started transitioning recently and it is hard to just overthrow years and years of male conditioning and turn into a female instantly. But he still is bullheaded and thinks I am still a man internally. Ughhh!!

An example is that he says taht I should be more "sensitive" and "passive"... I told him that he s boxing me into the stereotype of the perfect woman, and just becuz I failed to meet his standards, thus I m not a Tgirl. What the fuck, huh?

What can you help me say it to an ignorant bigot like my brother??

Put both hands around his neck and give him a good shake and say "What the hell is the matter with you!" :D

Some GGs are totally messy. Even the good-looking ones. Same with tgirls. I've been in the apts of some of best-looking ones in Philly and some live in places that pigs would say "Dayyyuuuummmm, this is messy!!!!" Yet these same girls have guys who are totally hot and take them to nice places. They just never go back to the girls' apts! :D

I'm looking around my office right now. It looks like a bomb hit it. Papers and books are piled high. The thing is every now and again a signal gets sent to my brain that makes me go into clean up mode.... and I can't stop until something looks totally pristine and awesome. It's like a jekyll and hyde thing with me and cleaning. I even get mad at myself if I see I didn't do a good job cleaning. Still, 90% of the time, my office looks like a mess.

Your argument is right. It took years to be a man and it will take years to undo the masculine ways. Your brother should be more sensitive to your feelings.

[angel_glow]

well youre brotheri s right about the aspects of being a woman... but he shouldnt have told you that youre not acting like a woman lhe should be nice to you and support you...

[MsDazzler]

I knew you girls would see the folly in my brother's comments. Another thing... do you have to hate your penis if you r a Tgirl?

[miketrannylover]

shit if ur a t girl and u like ur penis i think there is no problem with that

[Arnmake20]

i like my penis.. but then again that quarter roll of tums in my pants isnt attached to a tgirl... hehehe

[Ecstatic]

MsDazzler, that's a perennial question for tgirls, and us guys probably aren't really qualified to answer it, but fwiw, I think it totally depends upon you. I know many tgirls hate their penis as a constant reminder of being born "the wrong sex", others don't hate it but find it kind of useless (especially after years of hormones), and still others who enjoy the pleasures it can bring and therefore don't want srs. So my answer is no, you don't "have" to hate your penis if you're a tgirl, but you should know or discover what you ultimately want, and embrace that. If that means srs, then that's the right path for you. If it means continuing to live as a tgirl with a penis but otherwise wholly feminine, that seems fine to me. However, our society seems to more readily accept a ts who has "fully transitioned" than one who hasn't, so this can be a difficult choice.

[tsluver247]

MsDazzler, your dress would look good on my bedroom floor. :lol: Sorry, I could not help myself.

[MsDazzler]

I think I am getting through to my brother finally... making him realizing that we r having personality conflicts, not cuz iof gender issues... he s hassling mel less about it... heh