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~*MoNi*~
08-31-2005, 12:52 AM
ok i wanna hear everyone's honest opinion... are there any T-girls who u hear people going on and on about occasionally but in your opinion the ts they speak of is over-rated?? don't be a pussy!! say what your really thinking. 8) this should be interesting.

Syko
08-31-2005, 01:01 AM
You mean, besides you?

Haha I'm just kidding. :P

Harajuku Tgirl
08-31-2005, 01:09 AM
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Ecstatic
08-31-2005, 01:29 AM
In porn, the obvious choice is Vaniity. She is beautiful, no one can take that from her, but she is overexposed and over-rated imho. Likewise Tonya and Foxy Angel (again, mho). Yet Gia Darling and Allanah Starr escape from being over-rated (though they may be overexposed) I think because of their personalities, intelligence, wit, charm, and all the new ventures they get involved in. Vicki Richter I think is on the verge of overexposure (which comes before over-rating, I think), but she's been lower on the rader this year than last year which may actually be a good thing for her in the long run.

As for escorts, I don't know that many personally, but it seems obvious that girls who trade on their incredible looks but constantly get poor reviews based on their attitudes are over-rated. But I really don't want to call anyone out, so you'll have to scan the reviews for yourself.

etture
08-31-2005, 01:41 AM
First my ex taylor was close friends with foxy and she is a sweetheart leo like me.Hung at at her house several times had a chance to have a three with her and my girl(more on my blog about that) but I didn't she likes to fuck guys and I don't dig that.Its hard to say cause I don't know this woman on a personnal level.But I think joanne jet(?) is overrated she ain't all that.Vicki is nice and but theirs way more beautiful TS out there. Again all most of us know of these people is what they look like naked and how they fuck.So I hate to judge someone just by that hopefully theirs more to them then that

~*MoNi*~
08-31-2005, 01:49 AM
harajuku... what i mean is you hear there name often but when u see their pic u aren't impressed and wonder why they are supposedly so "popular" because you dont really think they are that attractive.

Harajuku Tgirl
08-31-2005, 02:09 AM
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kalina
08-31-2005, 04:28 AM
Besides me? :wink: hmmm... those ts's from the Phillipines! :D

JohnnyPaycheck
08-31-2005, 04:35 AM
Besides me? :wink: hmmm... those ts's from the Phillipines! :D
Kalina, i woundn't say you're overrated, you have a great look, and you're a very smart girl,, so i would say you're underrated, that is, you don't get nearly enough credit and exposure, but that may be a choice of yours too so, maybe i shouldn't be making this comment, lol.

JohnnyPaycheck
08-31-2005, 04:38 AM
,, anyway, as for overrated i think many of the Brazilian girls are, im not good with names though and theres a lot of them, but i think that's part of the overrated problem. Don't get me wrong, there are some amazing girls from Brazil, but most of them i feel are overrated.

08-31-2005, 07:13 AM
Almost all the "girls" that guys talk about on hungangels.
Why?
Most of the guys start these "Hey look at her dick thread" or "Which girl do you want to bend you over and fuck you?".
The women they say are hot are literally BEASTLY and ghastly.
They look almost frankenstinian.
I think girl with pretty faces and nice female looking bodies should be praised......

Scott
08-31-2005, 01:33 PM
What if my honest opinion is of a mod at this site?



From my experiences on the tgpixel site I'm sure a large percentage of the ladies wouldn't be bothered. After all it's just an opinion.


Scott

~*MoNi*~
08-31-2005, 03:17 PM
Almost all the "girls" that guys talk about on hungangels.
Why?
Most of the guys start these "Hey look at her dick thread" or "Which girl do you want to bend you over and fuck you?".
The women they say are hot are literally BEASTLY and ghastly.
They look almost frankenstinian.
I think girl with pretty faces and nice female looking bodies should be praised......

i kinda agree. i thought i was the only one who noticed that. and i agree only the attractive ladies should be considered 'celebrities' just like in hollywood. what makes u a celeb is being recognizeably above n beyond. if looks didn't matter then everyone could be a celeb and hence the term celeb would be non existant because everyone would be the same. don't get me wrong there are other major factors too but i think the most important one is personality. nevertheless some guys never cease to amaze me when they rant and rave about certain trannies in the industry and i look at the ladies myself and find myself dumbfounded at what these guys could possibly find so outstanding about the individuals they constantly speak of. i wonder if perhaps some of these profiles of men and "admirers" are fake and are really the trannies posting stuff themselves to promote themself. hmmmmmm. food for thought.

Ecstatic
08-31-2005, 05:46 PM
Could be, Moni, but I think it's far more likely that those guys are simply the ones who are infatuated with a big dick regardless of how the girl looks otherwise. Absolute Shade (whoever she is) certainly has called them out over and over, as has Megabody. I'll cop to the fact that I like a nice dick, no doubt, but I am attracted to beautiful girls first and foremost. Like I mentioned above, Allanah and Gia are superstars in the TS adult entertainment world (a pretty small world when you come to it--no pun intended), but even if they are overexposed, they aren't overrated imho because they are genuine.

Who's underrated? Well, I have to agree that the beautiful girls on this site and TG Pixel who are not well known are underrated--but tell me, ladies, would you want to be highly rated in the same way? I mean, would you want to be highly rated by dudes who are only in love with your dicks? I didn't think so.

Like most guys, I'm attracted to tgirls for the combination of feminine beauty and charm coupled with their "something extra" because I love both (and I'd much rather have that "something extra" attached to a beautiful woman than to a dude). But that's the initial, superficial attraction: once I get to know someone, then that all falls aside in favor of personality, interests, intelligence, creativity, etc.

Anyway, I think most of the girls you'll see on Hung Angels are going to be overexposed, but only those who are not genuine and engaging as people are overrated. All flash, no substance.

08-31-2005, 05:57 PM
Absolute Shade (whoever she is)
|-------->IsabellaDelRio :roll:

MsDazzler
09-01-2005, 02:27 AM
Thanks Mami.

Hmmm..I'm not too well versed with TS porn/movies nor do I personally know girls say at EROS but I keep hearing ladies such as Vanity and Vicky Richter from guys. I havent seen their any of their movies (Im not into TS porn myself). I think they're pretty tho (when onetime I decided to do a search online), but maybe a bit over rated. Then again, being over rated (HYPED) can be works of their own publicity machine/agent.

I am not into TS porn either. In fact, I usually watch straight porn and fantasize I m the girl in that movie. :twisted:

tsluver247
09-01-2005, 02:28 AM
There are a lot of escorts who I think are over-rated, i.e. high rates. :wink: :lol:

Harajuku Tgirl
09-01-2005, 08:15 AM
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Scott
09-01-2005, 01:00 PM
Well I gotta say this on the beauty equals celebrity comments. Have you guys ever seen the actor Steve Buscemi? LOL.
Seriously though I realize that a lot of the girls out there are just riding the fetish train and not caring to really do much about looking nice. Of course it's silly to sing praise for them.
But there are many girls out there that don't have the generic model looks but are working at being the best girl they can. While they don't have looks of a everyday model have a beauty all their own. Ones that distinguish them from all the others because they don't look like everyone else. To me that's what makes them stand out and makes them great.

Just a thought,
Scott

tsluver247
09-01-2005, 11:18 PM
There are a lot of escorts who I think are over-rated, i.e. high rates. :wink: :lol:

True. High rates=no of procedures. Dont get me wrong..taking care of oneself is ofcourse a "NECCESSITY". Looks does goes a long way in the said profession. I heard of gurls asking 300/500 and up an hour or so (FLAT RATE). I cant blame that they do but sometimes..you have to go with how the current market and economy is and be realistic of your rates and what's involved in it.

Likewise, the guy should always be smart and do a comparative shopping 1st.


I was joking. I did a little word play with "over-rated".

As far as rates, it is all about VALUE. If the lady charges $300-$400 and there is a lot of great reviews, I do not care about an extra $50 or $100 above the average. In my eyes, they are worth the money.

SmurfetteHasASecret
09-01-2005, 11:42 PM
Ivanna in the Miami area, WAY over rated.

WendyWilliams
09-04-2005, 05:06 PM
Interesting topic,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hugh you personally attack me all the time but this is one board you wont so thank you for your comment.

I have worked hard to get where I am now and I am not naive to know that some guys wont like my looks and or work however Overrated I am not, I wish LOL but far from it..............Yes I do work in the adult film business more than most but I am reliable, I perform and provide producers with what they need.

Remember overexposure versus dislike is totally different.

Keep the topic as overrated not a bashing of sorts.

Play Nice
Now back to the regularly scheduled program, hehe


Wendy

09-05-2005, 05:10 AM
To Be Honest, all Trannies are over rated. Most of you over rate yourselves.

DatNigga4Real
09-05-2005, 05:12 AM
To Be Honest, all Trannies are over rated. Most of you over rate yourselves.


Sorry but i had to say it.

KaMiLeUnGuRl
09-05-2005, 05:35 AM
My man always talks about how natural looking all the ts's are and when he finds out they "done work" to themselves its like total disgust to him. Me personally, beauty comes natural and some need work and get it done, some need work and dont get it done, But this is all on looks which i dont think ANYONE should go by. I dont know who said ALL trannies are overated, Hunni please if you actually knew what half of them feel about themselves INSIDE then youd know that we dont overrate ourselves. Some do, they think thier shyt smells like roses, throw shade left and right. But if they think that makes them beautiful on the outside, then let them think that. So far I can only say, the only trannies who are overated are the ones who think they are better than everyone else. We are all equal till proven wrong, In more ways than one.
As for me, I think everyone that sees the potential in me to become Fierce, well i personally think they overrate me But it also helps you in your transition when you get all that praise. Its the ones that get all ButtHurt when someone downs them (and im not saying the ones who just comment) im talking about the ones who sit there at thier computer TOTALLY UPSET when they see a low rating, who need to look in the mirror and tell themselves, WHO CARES What other people think. Love yourself, its the only way. No one should be overated
I think we are all beautiful in some way shape or form! Its when you actually take that form and shape yourself which makes you fierce in the long run

geekmeat
10-07-2005, 08:27 PM
Almost all the "girls" that guys talk about on hungangels.
Why?
Most of the guys start these "Hey look at her dick thread" or "Which girl do you want to bend you over and fuck you?".
The women they say are hot are literally BEASTLY and ghastly.
They look almost frankenstinian.
I think girl with pretty faces and nice female looking bodies should be praised......

i kinda agree. i thought i was the only one who noticed that. and i agree only the attractive ladies should be considered 'celebrities' just like in hollywood. what makes u a celeb is being recognizeably above n beyond. if looks didn't matter then everyone could be a celeb and hence the term celeb would be non existant because everyone would be the same. don't get me wrong there are other major factors too but i think the most important one is personality. nevertheless some guys never cease to amaze me when they rant and rave about certain trannies in the industry and i look at the ladies myself and find myself dumbfounded at what these guys could possibly find so outstanding about the individuals they constantly speak of. i wonder if perhaps some of these profiles of men and "admirers" are fake and are really the trannies posting stuff themselves to promote themself. hmmmmmm. food for thought.

Yeah you are right......
And another thing.
You girls talk about each other something fierce.
Dont even try to deny it.
You all talk just like us!
There are girls out there that you think are beasts and you all talk about that amongst each other.
I also feel like once a girl becomes well known others girls become jealous of her.
There are girls out there that are gorgeous but dont want eveyone to know about their "T" and thats why they dont so movies and other stuff.
But lets face it.......most of the girls with big dicks are BEASTS!
Its true.
The only girl that isnt is BABYDOLL......shes hot.
But those others girls.......
There are few others that arent that are from NYC but I wont get into it.
But all these dudes want is a BIG DICK.
They dont want a lady.
They dont care how lovely the girl is.
All they want is to get yacked by a big dicked beast.
Its really not the girls fault that these guys are on their tip like this.
I honestly dont blame the girls........although there is one girl from NYC that I wont mention who has a big dick who actually things she is lovely......
She does porn and has gone to Allanahs parties.

TrinityBlue
10-07-2005, 10:18 PM
Well I too dont know alot about TS pornstars other then the few girls I see on TGpixels.....I am not sure they overrate themselves but overrated by others definately....ANYONE can go from beastly boy to beautifull girl with $50,000 of surgerys to become womanly...But at the same time the guys want these girls to look soo womanly and adore them for there perceived feminity based on looks they lust after them for there most masculin aspect COCK....Makes no sense to me...lol...but as we digress I think SHemale Yum and alot of these TS sites out there are WAAAAAAAAAAAY over rated...A good portion of the people appearing on these sites are drag queens and second rate crossdressers yet there apprently the top Shemale and TS sites on the web......Now Im a little biased here on certain websites having worked in the industry and having been canceled on by Shemale Yum 3 seperate ocassions after clearing my scedule...VERY unprofessional...Only to discover they took pics of local crossdressers with no breasts fake hair and ghastly looking...These sites care less about looks and more about cock...I am glad now after viewing the full site with a friends password Im not asscoiated wit that particular site as I dont wanna be classed in the same category....There are a few girls onTGpixels that I think are way over rated and rated too highly but get these votes cause they do porn/cam shows....Guys truly care nothing for wit or intelligence and go for sex....On another note the ones I think cant get enough praise are Allanah and Gia who have no false sense of what they are and who they were...Its refreshing...I dont know either one of them personally but they seem to be the type of girls I would have as friends...And as everyone that knows me knows I dont like most of the Tgirls/Cd's locally soo that says something... :D :D :D :D :D

Hugh Jarrod
10-08-2005, 04:45 AM
Interesting topic,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hugh you personally attack me all the time but this is one board you wont so thank you for your comment.

Sorry you think I attack you all the time Wendy, don't think I ever really attacked you. Stood against when I thought you were wrong, and wether or not you believe it would stand up for you when I think you're correct. It's how I am and what I believe.

seanchai
10-09-2005, 08:20 AM
....Makes no sense to me...lol...but as we digress I think SHemale Yum and alot of these TS sites out there are WAAAAAAAAAAAY over rated...A good portion of the people appearing on these sites are drag queens and second rate crossdressers yet there apprently the top Shemale and TS sites on the web......Now Im a little biased here on certain websites having worked in the industry and having been canceled on by Shemale Yum 3 seperate ocassions after clearing my scedule...VERY unprofessional...Only to discover they took pics of local crossdressers with no breasts fake hair and ghastly looking...These sites care less about looks and more about cock...I am glad now after viewing the full site with a friends password Im not asscoiated wit that particular site as I dont wanna be classed in the same category....

You were never cancelled on three times so don't be a fucking liar. We've been running for 8 years and remained the top, not through un-professionalism but by working with good models and treating them right, I think some of the moderators on this board would concur. I don't see how we can be over-rated when we have more members than any other site and produce more sets of new models than anywhere else - I don't see any other webmasters posting in these forums and showing an interest in the TG scene like we do.

As far as the models - we don't base it on cock size at all, we base it on femininity and sure some of our models may start as crossdressers or TV's with no breasts but many of them look more feminine than big titted, surged so called professional models also. We're the only site that gives the opportunity and encouragement to potential new models and as such, almost every TS in the industry if they didn't have their first exposure on Shemale Yum (or Black Tgirls) have appeared there, including the lovely Monica in her first shoots (and her buddy Vanilla) who were flown out to SF for two days, Vo D'Balm appeared on our site before anywhere else (and pre-breasts), Amber Vaughn has only ever appeared on Grooby sites, the list goes on and on. If any tgirls reading this whether you're at the beginning of your transition or further along would be interested in working with us, I'd love to hear from you at admin@grooby.com.


It would seem you have some other issue with Shemale Yum - sour grapes that we chose other models over you? Believe me, with your attitude it's little wonder you have so little exposure and we won't work with you.
seanchai

geekmeat
10-09-2005, 09:07 AM
Let me just say that although some of the girls on some of the websites havent fully developed their femininity to the fullest sites such as black-tgirls in particular allow girls that probably wouldnt get any play anywhere else to get publicity.
This is a good thing for the girls.
Even someone like Vo got tons of work early on when her feminine appearance was no where near what it is today.
Is that her fault?
No.
She is a HUGE star whose feminine appearance has come a long way.
But are these practices good for the long run?
I really dont think so.
Girls that are really no more than cross-dressers have appeared in big movies such as that girl from Boston(the one with the big dick......you all know who im talking about) in one of Joeys movies.
She did a scene with Vo.......when she was basically a dude in a wig.
A lot of movie people do this because THEY KNOW tranny chasers want big dicks and could care less if the girl even resembles a girl!
This is so true.
Dont blame the girl........blame people like me who rent tranny porn.
Girls with big dicks are what sells.
In the long run though tranny porn will remain a niche because the people who rent these movies are psuedo-straight men and to attract them to the product you need girls that look REAL!
Its a sad situation really but I dont blame the girls.......even though I have spoken against certain girls I have nothing against them because the guys are what makes them stars.
I have said it over and over again........ITS ALL ABOUT DICK SIZE.......

Your fans are SIZE queens!
Not all but most are.

NoOne
10-09-2005, 12:36 PM
i have to vouch for seanchai.... yum is great and i was treated like a queen, upscale hotel and air, alot of money, they showed us a good time n took us sight seeing, and they were very easy to work with.

10-09-2005, 12:47 PM
You were never cancelled on three times so don't be a fucking liar It would seem you have some other issue with Shemale Yum - sour grapes that we chose other models over you? Believe me, with your attitude it's little wonder you have so little exposure and we won't work with you.
seanchaiAnyways....I know who I spoke to and when...Maybe you need to keep up with who your photgraphers show interest in...And for the record not that theres anything wrong with it but its HARDLY my dream to be known as a world famous shemale model...I was offered cash...I like cash..Girls told me they paid well and hey Im no better then the rest I'll take the money and run...So i suggest before you call me a liar you find out what the left hand is doing while the right one is sleeping....And as for attitude sure I got one...Is it bad...Maybe...But the opinion of a "world Class?" porn producer will hardly matter as I go on in my life...I know im pretty and I know that men appreciate my looks...Thats really all I have to say about that... :D

TrinityBlue
10-09-2005, 12:49 PM
Damn it....lol...I forgot to log in...But that last post was mine...All mine :P :P :P

Hugh Jarrod
10-15-2005, 07:57 AM
I don't think any are really, hope any and all can get the exposure, and fame they desire.

Quinn
10-15-2005, 03:40 PM
Overrated is a relative judgment that depends entirely upon individual circumstances. I look at it this way: if you are the tallest guy in a tribe of pigmies, then you might be overrated relative to a man who is not a pigmy, but so long as you remain among your tribe, you are the shit. It’s all relative. Women that were widely considered attractive during my teenage years living at the Jersey Shore would barely rate as average when compared to the quality of women so widely available here in NYC. Yet, when I go back to the Jersey Shore to visit long-time friends, those same women are still considered attractive by the men down there because that’s what they are exposed to. Once again, it’s all relative.

It is my opinion that most – not all – of the women considered attractive within the TG community are quite average when you compare them to attractive GGs. Even in a place like NYC, which has many TGs to choose from by the standards of most cities, there are still a relatively small number, and the vast majority are not passable. In an environment like that, a women that might be average in the GG community can suddenly become exceptional relative to available numbers.

-Quinn

Jhellis978
10-28-2005, 06:25 AM
I think ts's that have a ton of work done on their bodies are overrated.

Not to take anything away from girls who have had a lot of work done, I know some of you ladies are stalwarts of the transsexual entertainment industry and truly gorgeous females, but it's just more amazing to see a ts achieve stunning looks without the outside help.

Allow me to illustrate, a ts with 38DD breasts, a perfectly sculptured face and hips is going to sell a lot memberships to websites, a lot of videos and, if the girl chooses, earn a lot of clients.

However, the most beautiful and truly stunning ladies I have met are ts's who have relied only on hormones and a little bit of laser.

A lot of it's just personal preference.

Personally, I feel that many girls over-do the "work" on their bodies and end being more "clockable" than they were before. If you see a 5'9, 38DD female with a silicone laced face, it's obvious that you are dealing with either a ts or a female in the adult entertainment industry. Again, not judging those that engage in that business.

The last thing I want to do is offend someone with my post.

Jhellis978
10-31-2005, 01:20 AM
Well I too dont know alot about TS pornstars other then the few girls I see on TGpixels.....I am not sure they overrate themselves but overrated by others definately....ANYONE can go from beastly boy to beautifull girl with $50,000 of surgerys to become womanly...But at the same time the guys want these girls to look soo womanly and adore them for there perceived feminity based on looks they lust after them for there most masculin aspect COCK....Makes no sense to me...lol...but as we digress I think SHemale Yum and alot of these TS sites out there are WAAAAAAAAAAAY over rated...A good portion of the people appearing on these sites are drag queens and second rate crossdressers yet there apprently the top Shemale and TS sites on the web......Now Im a little biased here on certain websites having worked in the industry and having been canceled on by Shemale Yum 3 seperate ocassions after clearing my scedule...VERY unprofessional...Only to discover they took pics of local crossdressers with no breasts fake hair and ghastly looking...These sites care less about looks and more about cock...I am glad now after viewing the full site with a friends password Im not asscoiated wit that particular site as I dont wanna be classed in the same category....There are a few girls onTGpixels that I think are way over rated and rated too highly but get these votes cause they do porn/cam shows....Guys truly care nothing for wit or intelligence and go for sex....On another note the ones I think cant get enough praise are Allanah and Gia who have no false sense of what they are and who they were...Its refreshing...I dont know either one of them personally but they seem to be the type of girls I would have as friends...And as everyone that knows me knows I dont like most of the Tgirls/Cd's locally soo that says something... :D :D :D :D :D

Looking back, I must have passed over your comments when I initially posted.

Very well said.

I've always said, money can buy you boobs and a face, but it can't buy you intelligence or a personality.

WEBGODDESS
10-31-2005, 06:05 AM
<-----Not yet but soon perhaps...nothing wrong with being a lil famous and known, any T girl with a lot of exposure, over rated or wutever is good 4 our community, then we have some1 2 represent us in a good way...so far that aint happening besides porn, whats up with politics or other fields were t girls should be doing something...maybe I should start something myslef...who would vote 4 me if I run for anything :?: back me up if I do aight :twisted: lol
Lets take over the world 8) T girl powa :twisted: :!:
but na honestly shouldnt matter who knows you or not, as longest you doing something that makes you happy...who cares :roll:

Hugh Jarrod
10-31-2005, 08:37 AM
Hmmmm well would you rather be famous, or infamous?

WEBGODDESS
10-31-2005, 08:46 AM
just apreciated...infamous...depends if is for a good cause...lets say I can be infamous 2 some but a goddess for many...depends of what I do... :twisted:

Jhellis978
10-31-2005, 01:56 PM
<-----Not yet but soon perhaps...nothing wrong with being a lil famous and known, any T girl with a lot of exposure, over rated or wutever is good 4 our community, then we have some1 2 represent us in a good way...so far that aint happening besides porn, whats up with politics or other fields were t girls should be doing something...maybe I should start something myslef...who would vote 4 me if I run for anything :?: back me up if I do aight :twisted: lol
Lets take over the world 8) T girl powa :twisted: :!:
but na honestly shouldnt matter who knows you or not, as longest you doing something that makes you happy...who cares :roll:

Check out my thread on this board entitled, "Esocrts and Models: The Great TS Debate".

I offer suggestions for that very idea.

WEBGODDESS
10-31-2005, 04:18 PM
<-----Not yet but soon perhaps...nothing wrong with being a lil famous and known, any T girl with a lot of exposure, over rated or wutever is good 4 our community, then we have some1 2 represent us in a good way...so far that aint happening besides porn, whats up with politics or other fields were t girls should be doing something...maybe I should start something myslef...who would vote 4 me if I run for anything :?: back me up if I do aight :twisted: lol
Lets take over the world 8) T girl powa :twisted: :!:
but na honestly shouldnt matter who knows you or not, as longest you doing something that makes you happy...who cares :roll:

Check out my thread on this board entitled, "Esocrts and Models: The Great TS Debate".

I offer suggestions for that very idea.
Saw that and really not interested in a fantasy land like the one you suggest...coz that isnt the problem sorry...U should know better you are in Tx :twisted:

Jhellis978
10-31-2005, 10:59 PM
<-----Not yet but soon perhaps...nothing wrong with being a lil famous and known, any T girl with a lot of exposure, over rated or wutever is good 4 our community, then we have some1 2 represent us in a good way...so far that aint happening besides porn, whats up with politics or other fields were t girls should be doing something...maybe I should start something myslef...who would vote 4 me if I run for anything :?: back me up if I do aight :twisted: lol
Lets take over the world 8) T girl powa :twisted: :!:
but na honestly shouldnt matter who knows you or not, as longest you doing something that makes you happy...who cares :roll:

Check out my thread on this board entitled, "Esocrts and Models: The Great TS Debate".

I offer suggestions for that very idea.
Saw that and really not interested in a fantasy land like the one you suggest...coz that isnt the problem sorry...U should know better you are in Tx :twisted:

Could you please elaborate further?

What is makes my idea "fantasy"?

Identify the problem and formulate a logical solution.

What does being from Texas have to do with any of this?

Ecstatic
11-01-2005, 01:05 AM
<-----Not yet but soon perhaps...nothing wrong with being a lil famous and known, any T girl with a lot of exposure, over rated or wutever is good 4 our community, then we have some1 2 represent us in a good way...so far that aint happening besides porn, whats up with politics or other fields were t girls should be doing something...maybe I should start something myslef...who would vote 4 me if I run for anything :?: back me up if I do aight :twisted: lol
Lets take over the world 8) T girl powa :twisted: :!:
but na honestly shouldnt matter who knows you or not, as longest you doing something that makes you happy...who cares :roll:
Ah, but there are those who represent the TS community in a very positive way, quite apart from the sex industry. Consider Mianne Bagger, professional golfer who is also a transsexual woman -- or, as she puts it, WAS a transsexual, a condition of birth of which she was cured when she completed her transition:

Sara Benson: When did you first come to the realization that you were transsexual?

Mianne Bagger: I always have difficulty with that term, or word, 'transsexual'. It sounds so harsh and horrible. Also, my thought is that someone is not ‘transsexual’, but rather it’s a condition we are born with and get treated for. Once we’ve been treated, we no longer suffer from this condition. Anyway, my first memories of realizing that there was something different about me, compared to other kids, was when I was 6 or 7 years old. I have never thought of myself as 'transsexual' (or a man for that matter). I have always felt myself to be female.


Sara Benson: Was it difficult to "come out" to the world as transsexual?

Mianne Bagger: It was difficult, and I think more so because the world has been led to see us as 'a transsexual' ....not as a person or as a woman like any other. Women like myself have usually been portrayed as something less than human, and somewhat of a person of lesser standing in society and associated with sexual fetishistic behavior ....a novelty. That was a big part of the difficulty of 'coming out' for me and also part of my motivation about being open about my life. I was lucky to have good friends and family and always had a lot of support and understanding around me.


Sara Benson: What advice do you have for others who are trying to transition to a different gender?

Mianne Bagger: It's difficult to give advice on something that can be so complex and I think can be dealt with in so many ways. I think to be honest with yourself, and your motivations, is always a good way to be, and try to be a little understanding of what people around you might be trying to deal with as well ...particularly with those close to us. We will always need to push boundaries and people's comfort zones a little, but too much at once can be hard for others to take. Just be yourself and don't always try to force things too much.

- excerpt from an interview by Sara Benson, editor of the thought provoking Beyond Gender Blog

There are many others: Renee Richards and Dana International spring to mind.

Jhellis978
11-01-2005, 01:22 AM
I was about to add Dana International to the list of "Most Overrated TS's".

Have you heard that noise she calls music?

I'm sure she is a sweet girl and I know she is very attractive, but come on, do people in Israel really listen to that mess?

Ecstatic
11-01-2005, 02:02 AM
Subjective opinion of her musical abilities are beside the issue at hand: she is a transsexual woman who has suceeded in a field other than the sex industry, so I don't think she's overrated in that regard at all. And, as an aside, I quite enjoy her music personally.

Jhellis978
11-01-2005, 02:12 AM
If you want to talk ts success stories, how about someone like Sarah "Calpernia" Adams. Now there's a true hero--smart, beautiful, and she's been published.

Hugh Jarrod
11-01-2005, 04:28 AM
If you want to talk ts success stories, how about someone like Sarah "Calpernia" Adams. Now there's a true hero--smart, beautiful, and she's been published.

She's been mentioned here before, from her book to her acting career (CSI and a few films).

kalina
11-01-2005, 11:54 AM
I was about to add Dana International to the list of "Most Overrated TS's".

Have you heard that noise she calls music?

I'm sure she is a sweet girl and I know she is very attractive, but come on, do people in Israel really listen to that mess?

I have a cover song she did called "Woman in Love." She's really not that great a singer. She's just a lot of eye candy for the boys. She has a very nice artist image and, unfortunately, that's what a lot of people cling onto these days. Music appears to be secondary even though it should be the other way around.