NIP & TUCK tonight @ 10 on FX. WHO'S THE CARVER???

[NoOne]

This is supposed to be a really big deal and I been hearing about it everywhere. I rarely watch this show but I'm going to tonight.

They are announcing who the carver is. So we shall see....




Does anyone in here watch nip and tuck??

[vgsblakguy]

I do, i did not start watching it until middle of the second season though.
It is a very good show i recommend renting the previous seasons on DVD. :shock:

[Ecstatic]

I've been watching it faithfully since its launch. Good show, keeps getting better. Great cast. Tonight should be interesting.

[Xander maddoX]

George Washington Carver was born in 1864 near Diamond Grove, Missouri on the farm of Moses Carver. He was born into difficult and changing times near the end of the Civil War. The infant George and his mother kidnapped by Confederate night-raiders and possibly sent away to Arkansas. Moses Carver found and reclaimed George after the war but his mother had disappeared forever. The identity of Carver's father remains unknown, although he believed his father was a slave from a neighboring farm. Moses and Susan Carver reared George and his brother as their own children. It was on the Moses' farm where George first fell in love with nature, where he earned the nickname 'The Plant Doctor' and collected in earnest all manner of rocks and plants.

He began his formal education at the age of twelve, which required him to leave the home of his adopted parents. Schools segregated by race at that time with no school available for black students near Carver's home. He moved to Newton County in southwest Missouri, where he worked as a farm hand and studied in a one-room schoolhouse. He went on to attend Minneapolis High School in Kansas. College entrance was a struggle, again because of racial barriers. At the age of thirty, Carver gained acceptance to Simpson College in Indianola, Iowa, where he was the first black student. Carver had to study piano and art and the college did not offer science classes. Intent on a science career, he later transferred to Iowa Agricultural College (now Iowa State University) in 1891, where he gained a Bachelor of Science degree in 1894 and a Master of Science degree in bacterial botany and agriculture in 1897. Carver became a member of the faculty of the Iowa State College of Agriculture and Mechanics (the first black faculty member for Iowa College), teaching classes about soil conservation and chemurgy.

In 1897, Booker T. Washington, founder of the Tuskegee Normal and Industrial Institute for Negroes, convinced Carver to come south and serve as the school's Director of Agriculture. Carver remained on the faculty until his death in 1943. (Read the pamphlet - Help For Hard Times - written by Carver and forwarded by Booker T. Washington as an example of the educational material provided to farmers by Carver.)
At Tuskegee Carver developed his crop rotation method, which revolutionized southern agriculture. He educated the farmers to alternate the soil-depleting cotton crops with soil-enriching crops such as; peanuts, peas, soybeans, sweet potato, and pecans. America's economy was heavily dependent upon agriculture during this era making Carver's achievements very significant. Decades of growing only cotton and tobacco had depleted the soils of the southern area of the United States of America. The economy of the farming south had been devastated by years of civil war and the fact that the cotton and tobacco plantations could no longer (ab)use slave labor. Carver convinced the southern farmers to follow his suggestions and helped the region to recover.

Carver also worked at developing industrial applications from agricultural crops. During World War I, he found a way to replace the textile dyes formerly imported from Europe. He produced dyes of 500 different shades of dye and he was responsible for the invention in 1927 of a process for producing paints and stains from soybeans. For that he received three separate patents:

U.S. 1,522,176 Cosmetics and Producing the Same. January 6, 1925. George W. Carver. Tuskegee, Alabama.
U.S. 1,541,478 Paint and Stain and Producing the Same June 9, 1925. George W. Carver. Tuskegee, Alabama.
U.S. 1,632,365 Producing Paints and Stains. June 14, 1927. George W. Carver. Tuskegee, Alabama.
Carver did not patent or profit from most of his products. He freely gave his discoveries to mankind. Most important was the fact that he changed the South from being a one-crop land of cotton, to being multi-crop farmlands, with farmers having hundreds of profitable uses for their new crops. "God gave them to me." he would say about his ideas, "How can I sell them to someone else?" In 1940, Carver donated his life savings to the establishment of the Carver Research Foundation at Tuskegee, for continuing research in agriculture.
George Washington Carver was bestowed an honorary doctorate from Simpson College in 1928. He was an honorary member of the Royal Society of Arts in London, England. In 1923, he received the Spingarn Medal given every year by the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. In 1939, he received the Roosevelt medal for restoring southern agriculture. On July 14, 1943, U.S. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt honored Carver with a national monument dedicated to his accomplishments. The area of Carver's childhood near Diamond Grove, Missouri preserved as a park, this park was the first designated national monument to an African American in the United States.

[NoOne]

this episode is halfway over. its the 2 hour finale. CRAZY SHIT. and why the lady at the makeup counter called the transexual a he n was really rude to her as if she couldnt afford it. she just had plastic surgery so she must have some kind money. people r so dumb. i'd a smaked that bitch. anyway back to the show....

[NoOne]

Excellent FINALE!!!!!!! OMG. so many twists and turns... like a roller coaster and i want another ride.


WOW I AM NOW A DEVOUT NIP TUCK FAN!!!!

[Ecstatic]

I knew Quentin was the carver, and I had my questions about Kat, but I didn't see the ending coming. That was--given the series--the EXPECTED UNEXPECTED twist, if you know what I mean. Also, I didn't see the confrontation between Matt, his racist ex-girlfriend, her fascist father, and Cherry. That was quite weird. But what I like the most was how Matt and Cherry came around for each other in a supportive way, especially Matt of Cherry. That was a strong positive note.

[NoOne]

Cherry shot n killed the father in the end cuz he made matt cut off her dick n try to bury her in a hole. watch it. they r showing it again back to back. it was crazy!!!

[roseofsapphire]

I'd only ever seen one other episode, but this one really made me like the series.

As someone just coming into it though, lol, I think the twist of who the carver was and what happens at the end was a little predictable, but I think it is because I was not invested in the characters.

A few Q's for yahs!

The only other episode I have seen was when the son found out that Famke was a TS and decided to go get drunk at a bar, picked up another Tgirl, and then insulted her, where he later had the crud beat out of him. How did him and Cherry hook up like that later?

Is there any show on TV that uses TS's, or TS themes, so often? I looked at an episode database and there has been like 4 or more episodes already that deal with it. Wow!

Since I already saw the 3rd season finale, would it even be worth it for me to see the rest of the series, or should I just jump in next season?

Sorry, I don't know all the names, but the blonde ex-wife of one of the main plastic surgeons, did she find out she lost her child or something?

[Ecstatic]

Moni, I meant to type "I didn't see the confrontation coming" - I certainly watched it happen, I just didn't expect it. I knew the dad was crazy, but didn't expect what happened. It did make for great back-and-forth parallel storyline with the events unfolding in the medical office though.

Rose, I recommend watching the whole series, it's really intense and creative all the way through. I don't think any other TV show has done more with TS themes than Nip/Tuck, and not as well, either. They show all sides: from a sensitive, in-touch look at being TS to the horrid homophobic reactionary rage displayed by characters like Matt and that sicko dad. Cherry and Matt didn't hook up again until this episode, when she showed up at the office to coerce the surgeons into giving her her surgery for free. It really showed character development in Matt to come around the way he did, and therefore that much more tragic when the sicko psycho dad abducted them right afterwards.

[NoOne]

but why do they always depict ts as horrible looking on tv. that chile was not passable at all. there need to more shows with passable, unbeliveable trannys on there. cuz i know a few personally. its not fair they always put the manliest ones on tv to stereotype us.

[Ecstatic]

Either that, or extremely the other way: Famke Janssen is a fine actress, but I really don't buy her as a TS. Felicity Huffman (in Transamerica, which hasn't come out where I live yet) is believable as a woman playing a TS, but why not use a bonafide TS?

I think Cherry was meant to represent an average, clockable TS who's still early in transition: her character had to be be quite clockable or it wouldn't have been believable. But in general I agree with you.

[roseofsapphire]

I looked up the person that played Cherr and she seems like the type that lives between genders, sometimes playing male and others playing female. She was in American Wedding as well as a few other movies. Her name is Willam something or other. She cleans up much better than she did for this show by the look of her website pics.