estradiol cypionate depo

[Riley]

Hiya,

I'm new here and have a question to ask please.

I want to find a reliable source to obtain estradiol cypionate depo.

I've always used Inhouse for my products, only they don't do cypionate depo's. I don't want cypionate pills or gells. I have looked online and there are so many other online pharmacies such as a canadian online pharmacy, but I don't know how good their products are or how reliable they are.

Can anyone give me some feedback where's the best place to source this please.

Thanks.

Riley X

[Riley]

HELLOOO!!!...IS ANYONE HERE????...don't all answer at once!!!...Whahoooo! :)

[NagaSama]

Personally, I would go with a reputable pharmacy. You do, I presume, have prescriptions for the medications right?

If you are trying to get medications for which you do not have legal prescriptions for however, I will not bother replying.

There is a right and a wrong way to all things.

[Riley]

Huh?

I've been on hormones since 14 yrs old.

I can't get estradiol cypionate over here in the uk, in fact you can't any depo estrogen on script in the uk.

Most girls get their stuff from places like Inhouse other reputable online-pharmacies. So all I'm asking for is someone who can reccommend a good reputable online source. Inhouse don't do estradiol cypionate.

I'm not looking for the 3rd degree ok...just some friendly help. Anything wrong with that? I don't think so huh!

By the way I'm also post grs since age 19. So I hve a lot of experience with the hormone thing. Just cant cypionate estradiol in uk that's all, don't mean to say no-one else is using it does it?

My Doc called me the other day and openly admitted gp's don't have a clue bout hormones. I've also seen many endo's too and they say the same thing.....it's trial and error.

Sooooo!...girls like me know our own bodies and we know how we feel on certain preps and it for us to decide on how we feel.

Why am I bothering to explain and justify myself to you anyway Mom...jesus lmao. X

So any girls out there with a young view point and help me out wid the info I need plz. without cd9 mos ha ha. cyal8r. XX

[Riley]

I didn't mean to get at u ok. I know u weren't to know how long I've been on hormones and what my situation is so plz don't take it the wrong way.

In fact it wz my Doc's idea here in the uk for me to see if I can get hold of estradiol cypionate depo rather then me taking pills cause by using the depo it will by-pass the liver. I've used depo's for yrs and depo'ing the upper outer quadrant of my butt which is a little bit awkward ha ha doing it all in reverse in the mirror twisting around like a dog chasing it's tail lol lmfao :) had to do it that way cause I couldn't get smaller needles to do the thigh as I only had gauge 19. 1 1/2" needles which my Doc gave me, we coudln't get the thigh 1" gauge 19.

My Doc here waz willing to get the estradiol cypionate depo's for me, only cause he is bound by uk rules he can't of course but, suggested I give it a go and he will supply me wid the syringes and needles, in fct you can go to any A&E here and they will supply these.The only small needles they do here in the uk are for diabetics which is too small and not thick enough. So I will hve to find a supplier for these too, cause I dnt wanna be chasin my butt no more ha ha. the hardest part is trying to pull back to make sure there isn't any blood in the syringe. So the thigh wld be mch easier.

Awww! I don't know why I am having so mch problems obtaining estradiol cypionate depo? EV progynon depo is so easy to get hold of, but I don't get on wid EV, what suits one doesn't suit another of course, but estradiol cypionate 17beta does suit me the best.

Plz somebody jst gve me a link to a reputable online pharmacy.

I can get this from canada online pharmacy, but I don't know anything bout them, so I wz hopeing for some fback from some1 here.

Wish I wz in Thailand right now cz it wld b so easy to get, but I'm not unfortunately.

XX

[NagaSama]

Ah


the UK seems to be a tad FUBAR

Canadian drugstores seem to be the norm now for all sorts of drugs these days, just do your background research on each company, ya know, look into complaints. Im not sure what Canadas version of the USA's Better Business Bureau is, if they have one, but yeah

Has anyone here bought from any Canadian online pharmacies? E? U know anyone?

Lets get this woman the help she is requesting.


BTW, i wasn't meaning to be harsh in what I said, just some ppl in some forums ive seen have posted, and self medicate and have either not seen a doctor, have not really thought about side effects, or the legalities of buying online, and that kinda thing kinda gets to me ROFL

friends?

*hugs*

[Ecstatic]

I've bought allergy medicine online from Canada, but that's all, so I don't really know the ropes at all.

Good luck, Riley.

[Riley]

Thnks mom ha ha! u gotta daughter for life now! lmbo jst joking.

nice that u can wid me like the 'rotfl' :) whn im wid my frnds i usualy 'rotfluts' lshmbh ha ha!

I know u didn't mean2get at me, me nther. sbt.

I'm glad u got bck though cz I really gotta sort somthng out soon.

If some.1 here can plz hlp point me in2 the rght direction ptmm.

thx.

XX

[NagaSama]

Nyaaaa why am i being called mom now? *flails*

Imma guy lol

just concerned about ppl, i just like to make sure that if i help someone out, they know what they are doing, ya know?

*huggles*

[Riley]

Hiya,

Sorry I wznt 2 know not having met ya ha ha.

Yeah I knw whre ur coming from jst lke u dnt knw me either of course.

Well, I hpe we're gettin to know eahcother now :).

Does'nt seem 2b a lot of response on here from people?

XX

[NagaSama]

Yah riley, we trying to fix that

really dont know why ppl havent been responding

maybe the site needs a "reboot" or something

BTW feel free to message me on aim or yahoo, i have my usernames listen on my profile :P

[Riley]

Yah riley, we trying to fix that

really dont know why ppl havent been responding

maybe the site needs a "reboot" or something

BTW feel free to message me on aim or yahoo, i have my usernames listen on my profile :P something is really wrong here cuz i don't get any answers to ny of my questions ever!?

i belong to several female sites for natal females cuz i fit in well there too cuz of the way i wuz born i also have a uterus so i am true cross-gender and also carry both kariotype genes....point i'm making here is, whenever i post anything natal females get stright back and there are really good communication skills 'which females are noted for!' we like to chat and communicate and want to really help one another and really do genuinely care for eachother. Also, we are not afraid to compare notes on hormones ever, but here and so many other TG sites, people are so reserved and do not like to help with comparing info with one another???????

there is no excuse for this ever!

Where are all the communication skills here if people here are suppose to have female minds?

there is a total breakdown in communication skills in wanting to swapp notes and wanting to genuinally help one another on TG sites. It is stressfull and extremely tiresome to say the least.

You people on here are the bravest people in the world because you all believe in yourselves.

well, start showing it more and start 'Believing in Others too' who seek advice and help.

all this nonsense i hear constantly from other sites saying things like 'we are not doc's so do not wanna give advice'?

you don't hear this on natal female sites. in fact natal females stand up for themselves and put their foot down firm cuz a lot of the time they feel let down by doc's who try to rule thier lives and dictate to them.

truth is most doc's know bugger all bout hormones and say it is all trail and error!? that's true!

so, who knows best? us! our kind! cuz we have been guinea pigs for decades. so therefore what is the harm in swapping opinions and notes on each preparation...that way, if some people have unwanted affects from certain preps, at least if things come out in the open amongst us, those people won't feel so alone wid the problem. that's jst an example.

so, back to my original question please. is it much to ask for a response in a caring way and receive caring open suggestions to help out here.

maybe this is the wrong site to be on? prove me wrong plz.

Riley

X

[NagaSama]

yeah, the ppl not responding is pissing me off

im in the middle of a college semester, and my Macroeconomics course is about to start so im totally swamped >.<

but seriously

I do NOT know why no one is talking


>.> I do know why Orion talks, but its never about anything that means anything lol

[Dilligaf]

Sorry I responded to Riley by personal message.
Many online pharmacies exist.
many people had great results with supplies from inhousepharmacy ,they no longer deliver to US addresses.
A Google search coupled with some emails should yield dramatically better results than waiting.
As I am sure that no one wants to lose their next supplier the same way as inhousepharm was shut out.

[Riley]

Hiya Dilligaf,

I did send you a PM.
like i said i've had some upsetting news family issues.

I've not been here cuz of this lately, we've has a loss in the family, so i'm still taking time out, now we've just had another blow, and then to top it all yet a 3rd one one tonight cuz my best friend has just been involved in a serious car accident, she's just 17 but hanging on in there, so plz bear wid me.

Riley

X

[Dilligaf]

I will pray for you and your friends.
May the wisdom of the deceased and their spirit be carried and distributed by all who were exposed to it ,so that we who toil in this life may improve it for others and ourselves.

[Riley]

thanx for your words.

i felt i had to come on here and write this cause you sent me a pm but i'd rather write my reply openly and publically.

you write:

(My confusion is
Who assigned you as a girl from birth ,a doctor ?
or maybe you were born as a hermaphrodite and your testes descended later in life.
I cannot even recall what post of yours that I read that prompted me to ask the query.)
QUOTE]

1. I don't think it's any of your conern! it is my life and it is my body and it is not your right or any one elses to probe into my deep personal life!

2. you should have asked me first if it is ok to ask me these questions.

you suggested if i had male gonads? No! is the answer ok! i have never been damaged by testosterone and was born intersexed 'absent gonads both female and other.'

why are you so confused?

does it matter how i was born? it is not for the world to probe at me like some freak. i am a girl like any other natal female with the difference that i was born intersexed. there are different types of intersexuality, but regardless whether a girl was born intersexed, transsexual or transgender it makes no difference.

the gender is not always the body in physical form.

so, whether you have a child born intersexed and that child's gender is decided for them and therefore turned into a girl is not the true gender of that child.

the gender of who you are is your soul.

we are all ghosts. the spirit within us has been granted life in the physical form, to touch, breath, taste, smell, and all the pleasures of the physical life here. when we die our physical body is left behind, but the ghost in us moves on meaning the soul.

what i am saying here is that i strongly believe in female amd male souls, the inner ghost if you like.

so therefore, if you assign a boy from birth into a girl, the chances are it is the soul of a male, but, that child will be socially conditioned within society in believing he is a girl? it is only later in life a lot of children born this way start to rebell and are dissatified with being assigned as a girl, and it is only when prompting questions from that individual that the truth is revealed and the now grown up intersexed female would wish to be male and is angry they were assigned female.

this proves that hormones and social upbringing does not make either a boy or a girl into such.

for some, but few, they do adjust and are very happy being a girl and wouldn't want it any other way, but that is the very minority.

ALL intersexed people would have prefered they were left alone to make the decision for themselves as they grow older. It is there right to make their own decision to either be a girl, or, just be themselves as they are as both genders.

this has not been the case and it is all in the name of society and all societies insecurities and definitely not the insecurity of intersexed people becuase we all know who we are and we are strong enough to lead our own lifes without society and all the gross medics probing about us and taking our rights away from us and making decisions on who we should be?

transsexuals clearly do have the soul of the 'true' gender they really are rather than stupid society saying 'they choose to become' whatever way they go. that's utter stupidity on part of the ignorant and arrogant public and medics too, especially the transsexuals family who often say they 'chose' to be who they are.

so, yes, it has now been proven by transsexual people that a female soul can for whatever reason be born into a male body and visa verse a male soul into a female body. The soul is the person, the outward appearance needs to be adjusted for the inner soul to feel at peace so to fullfill their life here which they have a perfect right to.


if you forced a female to give up all her girlie things and never ever to live or do anything feminine ever again and to live totally as a man and to go out to work and suppot his woman and be the main bread winner but had to do everything that was asked of him as a man, that woman would also ultimately end up suicidal.

no-one can be forced to live a gender they are not. if you forced a man to be a female entirely in everyway he would most likely ultimatley end up also suicidal.

so, it is not really difficult for the public to look at it in this light and if anything help transsexuals rather than being pea-brained about it.

it is the most horrific thing imaginable. the public cannot comprehend it, it is totally beyond them, but if they too were born this way then they too would do everything possible within their power to put this right according to their true gender and not what is perceived of them by others. Then they would wake up to realize the odds are very much against them as it would be an uphill struggle with very little help or support let alone sympathy.

Transsexuals are the bravest people on this planet and no-one can compare to them ever.

your questions to me do feel intimmidating to me in the same way others have made all the decisions for me throughout most of my life and i have hardly had a say in who i am.

i am not implying you are deliberately questioning me with intent to hurt me, but i have had to spend ALL my life to date proving myself and it depresses me.

i don't like anyone trying to put words into my mouth by suggesting one thing or the other about my life, or my body. it is not anyones right to pry.

in future whether you ask me, or you ask anyone else about their life, if you are talking to a female such as me, it is extremely rude to ask them about their private genitalia regardless who you are. if you did this in public you would be slapped accross the face!

you should have the decency to ask if it is ok to know a little more out of politeness rather than ploughing in with highly sensitive and deeply personal questions about a girls personal anatomy.

Now, again you write to me for 2nd time going on about how confused you are? Are you intersexed yourself and this is your reasoning for asking? i don't think so, cause an intersexed person would not ask such questions.

so are you a medic? if so.....GO TAKE A HIKE! cuz i am done with stupid medics who are trying to play God. Your not God and never will be, so just leave us alone to make our own decisions and stop intruding on our lives ok! cuz medics end up messing our minds up for life. so i'm not interested...goodbye!

otherwize, if your not a medic? what is it to you how i was born and what i had between my legs?

you also came out with something pretty silly. you said you were confused 'yet again' ha ha! cuz you said one moment i said i started really young on hormones and the next i said i was born intersexed? So? what is confusing about that? in fact you said and i quote ( you said you were born beautiful)

i never said anything of the kind as i would never say i was born beautiful, i don't think anyone ever comes out with stuff like that lol.

so, lets put the records straight once and for all, so at least if you don't get it, everyone else here will. lol.

i could put it all in teen slang but that wud only confuse you more ha ha!

yes, i started out really young on 'hormones' obviously.

i'm not gonna be given hormones from a baby am i. so i started taking hormones from puberty and also had AA blockers. the reasoning for AA blockers is for what is known as 'Pre-programming.'

i don't know why i'm exposing myself like this here? but i'll do it this time and that is it!

pre-programming means, girls and boys start producing tiny amounts of hormones from their gonads 'before' puberty. it is not enough to change the child outwardly physically, but it primes the inner physical body ready for the onset of near puberty. pre-programming ends at around age 10. once this has been completed, nothing can undo it.

I have both kariotype genes. i also have a uterus. i also have edometriosis. cuz i have both kariotype genes i was given AA anologues to ensure testosterone or androgens from either the andrenal cortex or elsewhere do not cause pre-programming of the wrong type cuz of my genes.

from what would have been puberty i was on estrogen and progestins therapy.

every intersexed person has been somewhat pyschologically disturbed in someway cuz of medics, counsellors, and family. this causes insecurities later in life, and with me i am extremely insecure at times, even though i am always told i am beautiful, i don't see it as i would like to have because i have been probed and prodded all my entire life and even abused by medics and others, so therefore my comfort zone is to take more estrogen than i should for fear if i don't i wont look right as a girl. so really i should not be taking no-more than 2 to 3mg of estrogen a day and have to take progesterone for 10 days of the month which i hate cuz it causes me depression, tiredness, feeling generally yuk! but i have to take it for at least 10 days.

from the onset of puberty i was given literally just 10mcg EE daily then after a while 20mcg and then after a while longer just 30 and then put on diane35. all the other stuff i took was cuz i was frightened and i had a deep fear i may not turn out right as a girl, so yeah on the side i took larger doses which looking back i shouldn't have done cuz i didn't need such high levels.

i've lost faith in both docs and people cuz of the way i was born. my mates are and have always been great cuz they love me to bits as one of the girls as thats what i am. but when either an intersexed child, or i guess a transsexual is prodded around and treated differently all the time, you grow conditioned with this, but later on in life it can screw you up.

i'll be honest i have been turning to hormones for comfort like people turn to drink or drugs and taken more than i should when there is no reason for this other than deep insecurities and a firghtened little girl in me.

i've now realized this has to stop and now i am just taking 3mg a day of sandrena gel and i am starting to feel a lot better for it as overloading the body for me on needless estrogens was making me feel really ill.

So, what about you???????

who are you?

you know, whats between a persons legs is their business. Gender is the actual person and is not to be confused with sex.

0ne last thing. Chromosones means jack sh-t!

there are women out there who have given birth to their own babies and have always been female from birth who have XY male chromosones.

There are big butch manly men out there who have fathered children and have always been male yet have XX female chromosones.

how many people have actually had their karioype genes tested? not many.

so, genes, or what you have between your legs, or how you like to dress has nothing to do with the persons gender.

and all this bullsh-t about psychologists like i had when i was young expecting me to play with dolls 'only'? i loved barbie and all the natural girlie things to me, but, i also loved water pistols, playing cowboys or cowgirls and indians or cops and robbers, boys like playing with dolls too just as girls like doing boys stuff too there's no harm in it when your just a kid, but for me i grew out of the boy stuff and girlie stuff was a must for me with my mates talking bout boys, sex, fashion, make-up, music is the best ever and i love being all girl and want it for all eternity for ever and ever.

I've not only answered your questions...unless your still confused? lmao.

I've been a good girl here and tried writing this so you do understand and not all in code lol.

but i've tried to fill you in more than you asked so you have a better understanding and plz b a bit mre tactfull in how u pose ur questions.

X

[Dilligaf]

I offer my sincerest apologies to you Riley.
My confusion lies in my lack of understanding and the disturbing contradictions in peer review literature.
I agree whole heartedly with you that the gender is in the soul.

I very much appreciate all that you have posted in your comment.
Thank You for speaking so succinctly .

I do sincerely apologize for causing you any ill feelings.
I find myself agreeing with so many of your statements.
I am no "medic".
I am just infinitely curious and my query to you was poorly structured and I am deeply apologetic for that.
My query was never ever intended to be vicious or condemning ,My feelings are exactly the opposite.
I thoroughly support and wish to understand further so that I do not offend those that I so admire.

[Riley]

Dillgaf, you asked me to go to the chatroom. well, i don't ever wanna talk to you ever again after your total and utter stupidity towards me ok.

Oh, and that goes for any guy on this site, if you are sincere then i will talk to you, but i doubt very much guys are sincere as they are only after one thing or, just curious about girls born like me for their own means.

if it happens one more time not only will i say goodbye to here but, i won't bother involving myself ever again with anymore ts or tg sites considering i was born intersexed but whatever.

there is a thing out there called life.

stupid guys.

[Dilligaf]

I try to genuine and sincere at all times.
I am relieved that you have accepted my apology.
I sent you 2 PM's
One was concerning my apology
The other has 3 links in it for Dr. Carl Bushong.

[Riley]

I try to genuine and sincere at all times.
I am relieved that you have accepted my apology.
I sent you 2 PM's
One was concerning my apology
The other has 3 links in it for Dr. Carl Bushong.
i have not accepted your apology after the way you spoke to me in the chatroom. you implied i was born with male gonads. well i wasn't! i was born intersexed but you obviously haven't got a clue what that is.

so i found your remark to me highly insulting! i have been female all my life as that was what i was assigned to.

i do not have to continuously keep justifying myself to people like you on sites such as this.

my girlfriends who are natal females expressed this is doing my head in and they are right! not the ts or tg girls on here cuz they are very special people and i love all of them dearly to my heart. but people like you who screw it all up in your ignorance.

so for this i now say goodbye.

X

[NagaSama]

Dilligaf, I do suggest that you might wanna not be rude to others in chat, and to everyone, SAVE what people say to you in chat, and if they are rude to you, forward the chat log to Ecstatic or Seanchai.

They have the admin powers on the forums, and have the ability to remove people who are being insulting/rude/harassing/hurtful

[Ecstatic]

NagaSama is right; though we do tend to take a light handed approach to moderation of the forum, we do expect all members to be considerate of all others.

Riley, I'm sorry you felt so put upon by Dilligaf. You should not have to endure such treatment. Peace.

[Dilligaf]

slow down guys ,I was just trying to clarify some of the points made by riley in a very long PM.
Nothing evil or derogatory was ever said by me.

A question and answer type chat was being established to lay a foundation of understanding and some were apparently not well received.
I was never able to recover from the first ill conceived query and I tried.

[NagaSama]

@Dilligaf......."Nothing Derogatory was ever said by me"

Im sorry to say, but just cos you feel that what you said was not derogatory, does not make it not derogatory

I feel you should not bring the subject up, just leave it be as it is, in fact, it was dead, why try to reignite a fire once it has gone out?

[Riley]

slow down guys ,I was just trying to clarify some of the points made by riley in a very long PM.
Nothing evil or derogatory was ever said by me.

A question and answer type chat was being established to lay a foundation of understanding and some were apparently not well received.
I was never able to recover from the first ill conceived query and I tried.
BULL----! u suggested i may have been born wid undescended testicles.

why? what ever gave u that impression? u sayin i look like a guy? have i ever said anything to suggest such crapp? NO! now either leave me well alone and stop lying, or fully respect me for the girl i am cuz u did say that to me in chat i've never been so insulted in my entire life! all the boyfriends i've had for one don't even know i wuz born intersexed and why shud they know ever? i'm still a girl, instead they've doted on me as their little princess and that's the way i've always been treated, so what r u on dillgaf? ha ha! lmmfao big time all the way.

why suggest dis to me when this is not true. it upset me and deeply hurt me. i have enough complexes bein born intersexed widout sh-t like dis. i swear it isn't gonna happen again!

u even sent me another pm saying: "again I offer my apologies.
I think my confusion and questions are fueled in part by your beauty and by your presence on this forum.
I am very sorry for drawing such erroneous conclusions."

so whatever possessed u to come out wid such crapp? no man wud be so pathetic in insultin me in such a way.

anyway, i have 10 fingers and 10 toes and i cud wrap a man round each of them easily but i'm not like that, i'm now very choosy who my friends are.

it has been suggested i have a problem wid men? by one of my sisters here lol she's right in a way i do but, i still think really good lookin men are gorgeous and yeah of course i do fancy them cuz bein a girl to me at least it is natural and i think bout men all the time, but that's not applicable to all men especially guys who piss me off! in fact u r the very 1st guy who's pissed me off cuz ur the 1st person in my life who has ever insulted me by ur suggestion to me which fu--ed me right off.

anyway, some poor guy paid the price cuz that nite i ate him up and got him to love me and then dumped on him. i had to take it out on someone, so unknown to him he has u to thank for that ha ha! Wow! it's so nice for a woman to be in control i really took it out on him, still he wuz in heaven and not complaining ha ha!

so in future dillgaf, u think before u speak ok. and also treat me like a princess. :)


X

[NagaSama]

As I said Dilligaf, Would have been better off to leave this one alone.

but no, you had to go and dig it up again.

Personally, I think your ego was hurt a little bit, and you had to come back to this, and patch it up.

[nikkibuttslut]

i too use inhouse, they are a trusted site, i know they cost a tad more than some other sites but at least i know what im getting