orion
08-20-2010, 04:57 PM
then reasons why the times we in are far worse then the great depression.
before i begin like to comment that we have protections in place we did not then such as unemployment,welfare,tax rebates.
however we also have many more dues and debts today that would wash any form of these things away.
1. TAX. before ww2 there was not many taxes in the usa and fed tax for very light.
5% for fed income tax and during ww1 taxes were even less.
today burdens run as high as 40% for income tax alone for state and fed income tax.
there also town tax that runs around 10% up or down if you own a home.
most americans did not before ww2.
factor in all the taxes such as fed,state ,county and local and you can hit 50% very easy.
for one many of the taxes are not like the taxes before ww2 as they were many import taxes or taxes based on luxgury items.
today everything has a tax even sevices.
tax on cable tv there like 3,tv on cell,tax on water,sewer,certin items but that varry state to state on clothes and food.
we have taxes people never had or in other words big burdens.
2. SOCIAL DEBT. social debt is what i call programs such as unemployment tax,social security,medicare,medicad,worker comp,disablity.
small buisness have to pay DOUBLE the normal amount due for a worker and the self employed.
most people that work for a compay do not know that your employer pays part of what you also pay.
the worst off is the self employed as they have to pay both front and back of this.
this is why corp america is moving to make everyone privite contractors.
they releave not only libailty but also the burden of social tax or debt.
3. INSURANCE. this is a huge whammy as it can be allmost as bad as taxes or socail debt.
in some ways it like social debt but not really.
libility insurance is a mandate in most towns,states,etc for small buisness.
some years back the insurance companys sold policys for buisnesses to homeover or non buisnesses.
the claims from these non buisness people drove up the costs to buinesses all over.
they wanted to make money so the sold policys to homeowers who became there own contractors who made false claims or just made mistakes on projects and had to file a claim.
home boom allowed the flipers to run projects they had no right to do and would been illigal for a buisness to do but homeowners get a free pass on the laws buisness dont get.
medical insurance.
this is a huge whammy as the costs skyrocket.
when i left high school in the mid 80's i got FREE medical and dental was a co pay.
every job offer this just about.
today policys run $700-$2000 a month.
companys now include this as pay so if you make $80k a year it really only 60.
the other 20 you never see it paid in the form of benifits and i not taking 401k either.
insurance burdens on homeowners is massive.
there home insurace.
car insurace.
libial insurance....not many have this but it to prevent lawsuits outside your home.
flood insurance and storm.........yea that seprate but some policys will add them into your home policy but there seprate.
and if you own a buisness well you have that too.
4. PERSONAL DEBT. this is something new before ww2 there was very little credit,befre ww1 there allmost none.
after ww1 credit boomed and so did the stock market as well.
today we have home lowns and all that comes with that as well.
small buiness debt for those who own one are far greather then before ww2 as many had few burdens so they start up far more easy so the need to go into debt was more rare.
a simple lown often was the only thing needed and the was easy to cut costs in hard times.
credit cards.
oh this is a huge burden on most people and the intreast charged on it and the hidden fee and scams and tatics ccc use is just out of control.
by the way if you own a small buisness it just about impossible to get credit as most lenders like anyone but a small buisness owner.
as anyone who owns a company how hard it was to get a home lown.
dont matter what you make one bit.
a guy working in wallmart would get a lown no problem yet lenders wont lend to small buiness ownsers or self employed.
so if you wondering who made all the debt well really it was the normal working class people.
because small buisness and self employed have a really hard time geting credit so we find other ways.
thats why there no small buisness in america.
taxes,credit,laws.
5. DEFERED DEBT.
i call this that because some people have this and some not but pretty much it expensive related debt.
this is what most salesmen have.
a AMAX CARD.
if your in sales or such you have to have a amax card.
the company you work for wont give you upfront related expensives so they have you pay for things on YOUR card and you get it back when you submit your expensives.
problem here is this form of credit debt has a he said she said no regalation about it.
make a claim on your homeowners or or fight witha credit card company and loose this and you loose your job.
most people dont know that.
if you have no line of credit in a sales job your pretty much unemployable.
it happens by the way to people who have something spill over from persoal life and there no legal sepration at all so in some ways your a small buisness or self employed but not with no legal protection.
other people such as food servers get taxed blank fixed rate no matter what they earn.
so if you gip the tip they not only did not earn a paycheck they got taxed as if they did.
so in other word they got screwed twice by you.
this form of debt comes in many forms most people dont thing about.
tools and item you need to work.
a car for a sales man or special training needed.
anything that adds debt to your work life.
today this is huge.
in the old days a guy working at a garage or repair shop had a lunch box of tools.
today a auto tech will have $40,000 in hand tools plus 1000-2000 in training a year becides his tech school or collage.
6. STUDENT LOWNS.
this is a huge burden on many as collages cost 30,000 dolers a year.
the cheapest will run 15,000 a year and well 60,000 if you want high end.
no wonder why no one want to be a dr today.
250,000 dollers in debt to earn what less then some kid in a stock market firm.
no brainer really.
you cant earn till your 30 and then your insurace and debt will be massive.
by the way it not legal to work anywhere in america over 80 hrs a week EXCEPT drs.
yea they do work over that too.
you wanna know why the intern/resident screwd up well maby he got 4 hrs sleep last night.
you cant drive a truck on the road for more then 10 hrs but you can sure perform medicine that way.
schools today are huge money and many jobs requrie some form of them so there a huge monkey on many peoples back that was not there before ww2.
schools were all a expensive yes and the well to do took adavantage of that but today you can get a lown and be in debt for life and never work in the feild you took.
so it a huge burden on so many people now as there behind the 8 ball with low paying jobs.
they cannot offord a low paying job as they wont meet there lowns so they better off on welfare.
thats our system now.
7. LIVING DEBT.
ok strange word you say.
what the hell is this.
well it the things you need to be mobile and part of today.
cars were around in the 20's sure.
they also did not cost what they do today.
15,000 thosands dollers to 25,000.
plus insurance,road tax,plates,licence,inspection and good old gmac lown.
yea lowns claim low intreats but few people can get one that is that low unless there cedit score is high and they not have much debt and there income meet standards in a certin type of job.
a moblie phone.
we all need this and it a sorta big expensive really.
50 dollers a month for a plan to 70.
that what most people pay.
some 100 too.
text has gone up 4x plus inet and mms.
there a heep of taxes on it and even cedit to boot for a new phone.
yea think of it really it kinda high.
the repubicans would have you belive you dont need this.
where do you see a payphone anymore.
a asian guy in texas got shot THREW a door as he knocked on a door of a home after a car accident.
the law claimed the old lady was within her right as she did not know he was just looking to make a phone call.
the fed govt last i heard was sopose to try this casei heard nothing on it and yes i do belive there should be reasonable acts but shooting threw a door is not one of them.
in my state your only choice is if there no window or door and the person about to shoot.
i dont think that right either but thats asocail issue.
my point here is a cell phone is very important just as a car is.
if your a asian guy in texas and have neither well i guess your shit out of luck.
cable tv.
75-150 a month.
if your group inet,phone,cable it 150 for min cable a month.
thats no hbo or showtime and 1 cable box.
tv used to free in america or cheap.
not any more.
in 1933 there was radio and that was free and that amd the movie house were your two main forms of entertainment.
we have many new expensives that add up to form this sort of debt.
i call it debt because many toss this to cedit cards and there it adds up to intreast.
now some of you will claim oh that fuckin stupid.
but lets face facts here.
this is america.
who pays cash anymore.
gasoline.
thats a whammy,it what 2x more then in the 80's
10 x what it was in 60's
home heating oil and gas.
3x min.
elec is well kinda allways been expensive but its now double if not triple depends where you live.
thems rates remeber we have how much electic vampires today.
in the 50's-60's you had 1 tv fridge and a shortwave radio and maybt a cabinet hifi that was what 20-40 watts max.
a few had a aircon but lights were the real expensive that and elec dryer.
we had 5-6 items then.
today we had 300 watt tv proble 2-3 of then well mayby the others 200 watt.
a pc now is 300-500 watts about 2x-4x what it was before.
a home theather that can suck down 500 watts easy to 1000.
infact the average home enterainment can be as much as 2000 watts easy with tv,disc,reciver running.
thats not high end firgure 10,000 if it sunfire.
again we have burdens we never did each month due.
elec bill.
water.
heat,hot water.
cable.
phone.
inet.
etc.
i not going to get into netflick or things you get like itunes or that jazz.
there not basics and they can be droped and not all of us play for hula plus or silly things.
i love to pay for flicker and all them silly nonsence things but i choice to not do any of that and i have made pledge to sponsor a child.
yea some of us do that still.
you dont need to be gates and give 50% of your wealth to feel good and think you rid the world of proverty.
when you got 2 billions dollers what dose 1 less matter.right.
how humble he must feel.
but this is not socical agenda time like naga would say i such a bleeding heart liberal.
by the way if you only gave up one silly thing like flicker plus or hulu plus or xbox live a child would not go hungury or barefoot somewhere.
think about that next time you wanna PLUS something.
8. FEE NATION.
everywhere you go there a fee ,everything you do is a fee.
fee for this or that.fee on phone from FCC like 3 of them.
just about anything they dont dare call a tax is a fee.
we used not do this.
fee to get on the plane early.
fee for bag.
soon a fee to chew gum.
we we become wall street vision of a world where they can put a toll gate anywhere and make a profit.
there a fee even on the fee.
we have becoem overwhemed with debts partly because we look the oher way.
we kick up a stink at the countrer everywhere and think it ok to act up and companys put up with your nonsence because they know you pay the fee.
by the way that person your demanding or acting up in front of is just a normal joe like you and you not hurting any corperation one bit.
that person only gose home thinking how much they hate there job and life.
you walk in a place and start yelling like your the queen the england only that poor person is the same as you and you not like it if someone did that to you.
no one ever thinks of anyone anymore.
not once.
or the fee.
9. FOOD<CLOTHES<SURVIVAL.
food is cheap really when you think of it over the last 3000 years.
in all our histroy we never experenced such mass production of cheap food ever.
clothing as well but i am talking basic.
now food is going up.
infact it did herd when oil did 4 years ago.
the price of food might seemed a lil high here.
in asia is was a nitemare.
vietnam used to offer school luch as way for everyone to go to school.
that way no kids on the streets doing crime.
at least they learn how to read.
everyone talked how the sauds made a killing on oil.
trust me they got the short end of the stick.
high oil ment high inflation in the mid east and very high food prices for all.
there not one bit happy most of all sence we the food sheks.
today we feed 30% of the world.
we the food barons if you will.
you talk of oil sheks yet few know corp farms run a better racket then oil.
most people never read a newpaper let alone a book and just watch fox so how the hell would they know.
i seen the strikes in asia i know i seen the discontent after 9/11 from what we done and our choices and how it lead to hunger all over.
dont worry it soon be here.
what gose around comes around.
i know you think in usa never.
in the 1960's we knew for a fact we not be able to feed the people of the world at some point around the time of 2000.
we knew this as soon as 1950's and were fully aware of it.
china however did slow down it people and factor in better food production from a few places such as brazil and such and the the numbers changed.
however the date only moved not the problem.
judgement day can not be stoped.
only postponed.
the line from T2 or was it T3
we as humans have no grasp of this and no idea what or how globel warming will factor into food production.
there alot of far away isues and proff in our human record what happens.
however we have issues closer at hand.
lost wages more debt higher food costs and energy = hunger.
anyone that cant work will mean those who do have to surport them.
the repubicans would have you belive there should be no welfare.
lets me tell you this and why i for welfare.
desperate people do desprate things.
i seen it.
i never forget it in south america.
i stay the hell out of africa.
i know people hungry and upset watch there kids go hungry wont care to much of robing you one bit.
or killing you either.
make people desprate and they do desprate things.
last thing you want is soem desprate guys with 4 years of combat zone under there belt watching desprate people do bad things.
they become desprate you not last long one bit.
while you were getting fat from the credit boom they were going to sleep scared with visions of what the seen that day.
they were not pretty.
they were like chained dogs who left in a junk yard and had stones pegs at them by kids.
you really wanna take the no welfare repubican road with 2 million well trained men walking around with nothing to do.
i dont think it be wise one bit.
after ww1 we had issues with the dogs of war.
no one wanted to pay the bonus.
no jobs for those who had served.
the nation allmost experenced civil war.
allmost.
we know what happen with guys that cam back from korea and vietnam with no jobs.
they went into crime.
desprate times would be most unthinkable.
me if i was running things i be watching this and making sure we dont have a problem there.
cause once it starts it be mighty hard to stop.
10. DEATH TAX.
the tax of death nice huh.
i call this the iraq war and afganstan.
when the great drepression happended ww1 had been over 10 years.
it was not a huge war mind you but big enough.
after ww1 we took a break from war after all it was war to end all wars.
spending droped.
today we have the longest war ever.
even vietnam was not as long as it draw up and draw down really 66-70 was bad.
we have iraqonly ending now.
now we have to pay for it.
not just the war or men but in all the hardware we lost or burned out.
then there afganastan.
and our other off the books wars or acions.
yea we in africa,russia,asia all over doing covert training and ops.
there a price to the gray war.
so in the end we have all this personal debt plus the wars plus everything else and you think were not in worse shape.
dabai about to fail.
china is cooking the books.
this are a disaster in asia.
and we counting on china to lead us out.
now there oct.
when the books get opened.
your starting to see talk of double dip.
your hearing confindece drops.
the stock maket is a see saw.
unemployment is 10 really 20-30%
and we fighting potical tug of wars.
when the books get opened it wont be pretty.
it show small buisness went under.
the middle class is gone.
wiped out in 3 years.
unless we do what they did in rome and do debt wipe.
we will then have china freak out when they see there consumers are gone.
we did they go?
the middle class cant work at wall mart and buy a 40 inch plasma.
commen sence here.
when wall street see that.
BLOOD.
the dow will go down quicker then suzzie on a fri night.
i can see it so clear.
why wall street bet on china is beyound me.
we buy the goods.
they make them.
europe buys the goods.
they make em.
who will buy china new plasmas.
who.
them?
you have to be fucking joking.
they can afford to buy a knock off mp3 player without a days wages.
you think they lead the way.
1 billion chinese making 1 doller a day.
is only 365 billion a year.
we spent that on iraq.
hell we spend that of fighter jets or other weapons.
you really think a few million chinese making 10 k a year can offset europe let alone the usa.
when wall street see that.
the numbers showing there no way the usa can surport china and no way europe can and they no way the chinese can hold out 3 more years.
IT WILL TANK!
they held out 3 years becuase they been book cooking.
the investors went out the door last year.
not in.
out!
it all govt chinese money in the real eastate there now.
and it be worse then here.
here they govt never got involved in gray market specaliton.
the law there say they can do that.
so it all illigal.
but i promise you this.
wall street see the chinese banks have a run.
it be nasty.
we be back were we was 3 years ago.
only this time it be worse cause it be all poticals footballs as rome burns.
and we wont have rabit to jerk from the hat.
before i begin like to comment that we have protections in place we did not then such as unemployment,welfare,tax rebates.
however we also have many more dues and debts today that would wash any form of these things away.
1. TAX. before ww2 there was not many taxes in the usa and fed tax for very light.
5% for fed income tax and during ww1 taxes were even less.
today burdens run as high as 40% for income tax alone for state and fed income tax.
there also town tax that runs around 10% up or down if you own a home.
most americans did not before ww2.
factor in all the taxes such as fed,state ,county and local and you can hit 50% very easy.
for one many of the taxes are not like the taxes before ww2 as they were many import taxes or taxes based on luxgury items.
today everything has a tax even sevices.
tax on cable tv there like 3,tv on cell,tax on water,sewer,certin items but that varry state to state on clothes and food.
we have taxes people never had or in other words big burdens.
2. SOCIAL DEBT. social debt is what i call programs such as unemployment tax,social security,medicare,medicad,worker comp,disablity.
small buisness have to pay DOUBLE the normal amount due for a worker and the self employed.
most people that work for a compay do not know that your employer pays part of what you also pay.
the worst off is the self employed as they have to pay both front and back of this.
this is why corp america is moving to make everyone privite contractors.
they releave not only libailty but also the burden of social tax or debt.
3. INSURANCE. this is a huge whammy as it can be allmost as bad as taxes or socail debt.
in some ways it like social debt but not really.
libility insurance is a mandate in most towns,states,etc for small buisness.
some years back the insurance companys sold policys for buisnesses to homeover or non buisnesses.
the claims from these non buisness people drove up the costs to buinesses all over.
they wanted to make money so the sold policys to homeowers who became there own contractors who made false claims or just made mistakes on projects and had to file a claim.
home boom allowed the flipers to run projects they had no right to do and would been illigal for a buisness to do but homeowners get a free pass on the laws buisness dont get.
medical insurance.
this is a huge whammy as the costs skyrocket.
when i left high school in the mid 80's i got FREE medical and dental was a co pay.
every job offer this just about.
today policys run $700-$2000 a month.
companys now include this as pay so if you make $80k a year it really only 60.
the other 20 you never see it paid in the form of benifits and i not taking 401k either.
insurance burdens on homeowners is massive.
there home insurace.
car insurace.
libial insurance....not many have this but it to prevent lawsuits outside your home.
flood insurance and storm.........yea that seprate but some policys will add them into your home policy but there seprate.
and if you own a buisness well you have that too.
4. PERSONAL DEBT. this is something new before ww2 there was very little credit,befre ww1 there allmost none.
after ww1 credit boomed and so did the stock market as well.
today we have home lowns and all that comes with that as well.
small buiness debt for those who own one are far greather then before ww2 as many had few burdens so they start up far more easy so the need to go into debt was more rare.
a simple lown often was the only thing needed and the was easy to cut costs in hard times.
credit cards.
oh this is a huge burden on most people and the intreast charged on it and the hidden fee and scams and tatics ccc use is just out of control.
by the way if you own a small buisness it just about impossible to get credit as most lenders like anyone but a small buisness owner.
as anyone who owns a company how hard it was to get a home lown.
dont matter what you make one bit.
a guy working in wallmart would get a lown no problem yet lenders wont lend to small buiness ownsers or self employed.
so if you wondering who made all the debt well really it was the normal working class people.
because small buisness and self employed have a really hard time geting credit so we find other ways.
thats why there no small buisness in america.
taxes,credit,laws.
5. DEFERED DEBT.
i call this that because some people have this and some not but pretty much it expensive related debt.
this is what most salesmen have.
a AMAX CARD.
if your in sales or such you have to have a amax card.
the company you work for wont give you upfront related expensives so they have you pay for things on YOUR card and you get it back when you submit your expensives.
problem here is this form of credit debt has a he said she said no regalation about it.
make a claim on your homeowners or or fight witha credit card company and loose this and you loose your job.
most people dont know that.
if you have no line of credit in a sales job your pretty much unemployable.
it happens by the way to people who have something spill over from persoal life and there no legal sepration at all so in some ways your a small buisness or self employed but not with no legal protection.
other people such as food servers get taxed blank fixed rate no matter what they earn.
so if you gip the tip they not only did not earn a paycheck they got taxed as if they did.
so in other word they got screwed twice by you.
this form of debt comes in many forms most people dont thing about.
tools and item you need to work.
a car for a sales man or special training needed.
anything that adds debt to your work life.
today this is huge.
in the old days a guy working at a garage or repair shop had a lunch box of tools.
today a auto tech will have $40,000 in hand tools plus 1000-2000 in training a year becides his tech school or collage.
6. STUDENT LOWNS.
this is a huge burden on many as collages cost 30,000 dolers a year.
the cheapest will run 15,000 a year and well 60,000 if you want high end.
no wonder why no one want to be a dr today.
250,000 dollers in debt to earn what less then some kid in a stock market firm.
no brainer really.
you cant earn till your 30 and then your insurace and debt will be massive.
by the way it not legal to work anywhere in america over 80 hrs a week EXCEPT drs.
yea they do work over that too.
you wanna know why the intern/resident screwd up well maby he got 4 hrs sleep last night.
you cant drive a truck on the road for more then 10 hrs but you can sure perform medicine that way.
schools today are huge money and many jobs requrie some form of them so there a huge monkey on many peoples back that was not there before ww2.
schools were all a expensive yes and the well to do took adavantage of that but today you can get a lown and be in debt for life and never work in the feild you took.
so it a huge burden on so many people now as there behind the 8 ball with low paying jobs.
they cannot offord a low paying job as they wont meet there lowns so they better off on welfare.
thats our system now.
7. LIVING DEBT.
ok strange word you say.
what the hell is this.
well it the things you need to be mobile and part of today.
cars were around in the 20's sure.
they also did not cost what they do today.
15,000 thosands dollers to 25,000.
plus insurance,road tax,plates,licence,inspection and good old gmac lown.
yea lowns claim low intreats but few people can get one that is that low unless there cedit score is high and they not have much debt and there income meet standards in a certin type of job.
a moblie phone.
we all need this and it a sorta big expensive really.
50 dollers a month for a plan to 70.
that what most people pay.
some 100 too.
text has gone up 4x plus inet and mms.
there a heep of taxes on it and even cedit to boot for a new phone.
yea think of it really it kinda high.
the repubicans would have you belive you dont need this.
where do you see a payphone anymore.
a asian guy in texas got shot THREW a door as he knocked on a door of a home after a car accident.
the law claimed the old lady was within her right as she did not know he was just looking to make a phone call.
the fed govt last i heard was sopose to try this casei heard nothing on it and yes i do belive there should be reasonable acts but shooting threw a door is not one of them.
in my state your only choice is if there no window or door and the person about to shoot.
i dont think that right either but thats asocail issue.
my point here is a cell phone is very important just as a car is.
if your a asian guy in texas and have neither well i guess your shit out of luck.
cable tv.
75-150 a month.
if your group inet,phone,cable it 150 for min cable a month.
thats no hbo or showtime and 1 cable box.
tv used to free in america or cheap.
not any more.
in 1933 there was radio and that was free and that amd the movie house were your two main forms of entertainment.
we have many new expensives that add up to form this sort of debt.
i call it debt because many toss this to cedit cards and there it adds up to intreast.
now some of you will claim oh that fuckin stupid.
but lets face facts here.
this is america.
who pays cash anymore.
gasoline.
thats a whammy,it what 2x more then in the 80's
10 x what it was in 60's
home heating oil and gas.
3x min.
elec is well kinda allways been expensive but its now double if not triple depends where you live.
thems rates remeber we have how much electic vampires today.
in the 50's-60's you had 1 tv fridge and a shortwave radio and maybt a cabinet hifi that was what 20-40 watts max.
a few had a aircon but lights were the real expensive that and elec dryer.
we had 5-6 items then.
today we had 300 watt tv proble 2-3 of then well mayby the others 200 watt.
a pc now is 300-500 watts about 2x-4x what it was before.
a home theather that can suck down 500 watts easy to 1000.
infact the average home enterainment can be as much as 2000 watts easy with tv,disc,reciver running.
thats not high end firgure 10,000 if it sunfire.
again we have burdens we never did each month due.
elec bill.
water.
heat,hot water.
cable.
phone.
inet.
etc.
i not going to get into netflick or things you get like itunes or that jazz.
there not basics and they can be droped and not all of us play for hula plus or silly things.
i love to pay for flicker and all them silly nonsence things but i choice to not do any of that and i have made pledge to sponsor a child.
yea some of us do that still.
you dont need to be gates and give 50% of your wealth to feel good and think you rid the world of proverty.
when you got 2 billions dollers what dose 1 less matter.right.
how humble he must feel.
but this is not socical agenda time like naga would say i such a bleeding heart liberal.
by the way if you only gave up one silly thing like flicker plus or hulu plus or xbox live a child would not go hungury or barefoot somewhere.
think about that next time you wanna PLUS something.
8. FEE NATION.
everywhere you go there a fee ,everything you do is a fee.
fee for this or that.fee on phone from FCC like 3 of them.
just about anything they dont dare call a tax is a fee.
we used not do this.
fee to get on the plane early.
fee for bag.
soon a fee to chew gum.
we we become wall street vision of a world where they can put a toll gate anywhere and make a profit.
there a fee even on the fee.
we have becoem overwhemed with debts partly because we look the oher way.
we kick up a stink at the countrer everywhere and think it ok to act up and companys put up with your nonsence because they know you pay the fee.
by the way that person your demanding or acting up in front of is just a normal joe like you and you not hurting any corperation one bit.
that person only gose home thinking how much they hate there job and life.
you walk in a place and start yelling like your the queen the england only that poor person is the same as you and you not like it if someone did that to you.
no one ever thinks of anyone anymore.
not once.
or the fee.
9. FOOD<CLOTHES<SURVIVAL.
food is cheap really when you think of it over the last 3000 years.
in all our histroy we never experenced such mass production of cheap food ever.
clothing as well but i am talking basic.
now food is going up.
infact it did herd when oil did 4 years ago.
the price of food might seemed a lil high here.
in asia is was a nitemare.
vietnam used to offer school luch as way for everyone to go to school.
that way no kids on the streets doing crime.
at least they learn how to read.
everyone talked how the sauds made a killing on oil.
trust me they got the short end of the stick.
high oil ment high inflation in the mid east and very high food prices for all.
there not one bit happy most of all sence we the food sheks.
today we feed 30% of the world.
we the food barons if you will.
you talk of oil sheks yet few know corp farms run a better racket then oil.
most people never read a newpaper let alone a book and just watch fox so how the hell would they know.
i seen the strikes in asia i know i seen the discontent after 9/11 from what we done and our choices and how it lead to hunger all over.
dont worry it soon be here.
what gose around comes around.
i know you think in usa never.
in the 1960's we knew for a fact we not be able to feed the people of the world at some point around the time of 2000.
we knew this as soon as 1950's and were fully aware of it.
china however did slow down it people and factor in better food production from a few places such as brazil and such and the the numbers changed.
however the date only moved not the problem.
judgement day can not be stoped.
only postponed.
the line from T2 or was it T3
we as humans have no grasp of this and no idea what or how globel warming will factor into food production.
there alot of far away isues and proff in our human record what happens.
however we have issues closer at hand.
lost wages more debt higher food costs and energy = hunger.
anyone that cant work will mean those who do have to surport them.
the repubicans would have you belive there should be no welfare.
lets me tell you this and why i for welfare.
desperate people do desprate things.
i seen it.
i never forget it in south america.
i stay the hell out of africa.
i know people hungry and upset watch there kids go hungry wont care to much of robing you one bit.
or killing you either.
make people desprate and they do desprate things.
last thing you want is soem desprate guys with 4 years of combat zone under there belt watching desprate people do bad things.
they become desprate you not last long one bit.
while you were getting fat from the credit boom they were going to sleep scared with visions of what the seen that day.
they were not pretty.
they were like chained dogs who left in a junk yard and had stones pegs at them by kids.
you really wanna take the no welfare repubican road with 2 million well trained men walking around with nothing to do.
i dont think it be wise one bit.
after ww1 we had issues with the dogs of war.
no one wanted to pay the bonus.
no jobs for those who had served.
the nation allmost experenced civil war.
allmost.
we know what happen with guys that cam back from korea and vietnam with no jobs.
they went into crime.
desprate times would be most unthinkable.
me if i was running things i be watching this and making sure we dont have a problem there.
cause once it starts it be mighty hard to stop.
10. DEATH TAX.
the tax of death nice huh.
i call this the iraq war and afganstan.
when the great drepression happended ww1 had been over 10 years.
it was not a huge war mind you but big enough.
after ww1 we took a break from war after all it was war to end all wars.
spending droped.
today we have the longest war ever.
even vietnam was not as long as it draw up and draw down really 66-70 was bad.
we have iraqonly ending now.
now we have to pay for it.
not just the war or men but in all the hardware we lost or burned out.
then there afganastan.
and our other off the books wars or acions.
yea we in africa,russia,asia all over doing covert training and ops.
there a price to the gray war.
so in the end we have all this personal debt plus the wars plus everything else and you think were not in worse shape.
dabai about to fail.
china is cooking the books.
this are a disaster in asia.
and we counting on china to lead us out.
now there oct.
when the books get opened.
your starting to see talk of double dip.
your hearing confindece drops.
the stock maket is a see saw.
unemployment is 10 really 20-30%
and we fighting potical tug of wars.
when the books get opened it wont be pretty.
it show small buisness went under.
the middle class is gone.
wiped out in 3 years.
unless we do what they did in rome and do debt wipe.
we will then have china freak out when they see there consumers are gone.
we did they go?
the middle class cant work at wall mart and buy a 40 inch plasma.
commen sence here.
when wall street see that.
BLOOD.
the dow will go down quicker then suzzie on a fri night.
i can see it so clear.
why wall street bet on china is beyound me.
we buy the goods.
they make them.
europe buys the goods.
they make em.
who will buy china new plasmas.
who.
them?
you have to be fucking joking.
they can afford to buy a knock off mp3 player without a days wages.
you think they lead the way.
1 billion chinese making 1 doller a day.
is only 365 billion a year.
we spent that on iraq.
hell we spend that of fighter jets or other weapons.
you really think a few million chinese making 10 k a year can offset europe let alone the usa.
when wall street see that.
the numbers showing there no way the usa can surport china and no way europe can and they no way the chinese can hold out 3 more years.
IT WILL TANK!
they held out 3 years becuase they been book cooking.
the investors went out the door last year.
not in.
out!
it all govt chinese money in the real eastate there now.
and it be worse then here.
here they govt never got involved in gray market specaliton.
the law there say they can do that.
so it all illigal.
but i promise you this.
wall street see the chinese banks have a run.
it be nasty.
we be back were we was 3 years ago.
only this time it be worse cause it be all poticals footballs as rome burns.
and we wont have rabit to jerk from the hat.