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MsDazzler
12-14-2005, 08:56 PM
Since so many guys have taken issue with being "straight", or "bi, or "gay" when it comes down regarding liking girls, I was wondering...

Are you comfortable with being able to look at another guy and judge how hot he is? Are you comfortable with looking at him naked? Are you comfortable hanging out with gay people or going to gay clubs (without Tgirls or drag queens around)?

12-14-2005, 11:45 PM
what a silly and boring subject :?

AugenGn.
12-15-2005, 12:11 AM
Are you comfortable with being able to look at another guy and judge how hot he is?

i suppose i could. i expect i've picked up "What's Hot/What's Not" in terms of gayness, or at least the Hollywood/NYC versions of it, from the media. but if a gay friend asked me my opinion, i'd probably be at a loose for words. :shock:

Are you comfortable with looking at him naked?

theoretically, again, i suppose. i did survive the gym class locker room, the mens dorm in college, and the health club without significant damage to my psyche. :roll:

Are you comfortable hanging out with gay people or going to gay clubs (without Tgirls or drag queens around)?

never had the occassion to go to a gay club, but i've got gay customers that i count as friends. & have a standing invitation from one gay couple to visit their B&B near Antietam. all i need is more than one consecutive day off. :?

MacShreach
12-15-2005, 12:35 AM
Since so many guys have taken issue with being "straight", or "bi, or "gay" when it comes down regarding liking girls, I was wondering...

Are you comfortable with being able to look at another guy and judge how hot he is? Are you comfortable with looking at him naked? Are you comfortable hanging out with gay people or going to gay clubs (without Tgirls or drag queens around)?


Yup. I've never, ever, had any problems with gay men. Certainly do hang out with them, have done for a long long time. I never ever had any trouble letting a gay man know I wasn't interested-- I've had far, far more trouble with girls trying it on even when they can see I'm with someone, specially if they're drunk.

I think men who get strange around gays should take a long hard look at themselves, because they have issues they need to address. I find it pretty shocking if I find myself talking to an otherwise intelligent and educated man (or woman for that matter) who suddenly reveals homophobic tendencies. It's like racism...gratuitously offensive.

I'm a trained artist.....You don't spend years looking at naked men and women of all shapes and sizes without getting comfortable about it. Yes I certainly can appreciate a good body, irrespective of sex or gender or sexuality. (And not all good bodies are conventionally attractive... I remember one guy who was pretty big, you know, but it was tight, not all saggy, and in the right pose he looked amazing-- huge bear of a man, fantastic shapes...... He went on a diet and lost a load of weight and wasn't nearly as good afterwards!) But I digress.

And if you're a sculptor you have to touch them because calipers are used to measure from life. These are a bit sharp and usually cold, so the artist wraps his/her fingers around the points so you actually measure with your fingertips. (You ask first as not every model likes being touched, though most would rather that than be stabbed in a tender area.) WTF is the issue? About half the male models I've known were gay but so what? Would one catch gayness from touching a man? Dear dear.

For years my favourite club was a club where gays and lesbians and straights mixed together. It was about half gay half str8 most nights. I liked it because the people were friendly, they always had better music, the dancing was great and there WAS NEVER any aggro. I never once saw any hassle there, and I'm sure that was because it was known as a gay place-- the nutcases just wouldn't be seen dead in it.

So I'm relaxed about it.

christoronto
12-15-2005, 01:57 AM
no problem with any of it, people watching no matter what gender...

Texxx
12-15-2005, 12:28 PM
i can appreciate when a guy is well built since i know how much hard work and dedication that requires. i also appreciate sharply dressed guys, but as for "hotness"- i can tell when a guy looks like a tragedy, but not really anything beyond that.
no problem with gay clubs, i just don't like clubs period. i just like to sit at bars with my friends and shoot the sh!t. i hate not being able to actually talk to people.
i have no problems with nudity...all are free to look at me. and i have a few gay friends that i hang out with on a regular basis.
did i get to all your questions?

Ecstatic
12-15-2005, 01:05 PM
Are you comfortable with being able to look at another guy and judge how hot he is? Are you comfortable with looking at him naked? Are you comfortable hanging out with gay people or going to gay clubs (without Tgirls or drag queens around)?
Well MsD, I think you know I'm bi*, so it's easy to answer in the positive for the most part here. Yes, I'm fine with looking at another guy, though not so good at judging "hotness" since that's subjective: everyone seems to find Dr McDreamy (Pat Dempsey on Gray's Anatomy) hot, but I'd scarcely notice him. Issiah Washington, on the other hand, I'd guage as hot. But since I'm not attracted to men per se, it's all academic.

Yeah, I'm quite comfortable looking at a man naked, as in seeing a naked man, but I really don't tend to look (well, certain endowment will draw my attention, I must admit, lol). A naked woman or tgirl, though, will turn my head and I'll have to fight that urge to stare. :)

I'm very comfortable hanging with gay people, yes. In fact, since I'm really not so much attracted physically and certainly not romatically or emotionally, a gay guy to me is just another guy: no issues either on the side of revulsion (absurd!) or attraction (see note for clarity). However, I don't go to gay clubs and have no interest in that scene, since I'm not on the make for a guy and really don't like loud, obnoxious clubs (which have been my experience when I have gone). For that matter, I don't go to any clubs, with the exception of having attended a couple of Allanah Starr's parties in NYC. I live 40 miles from Boston and have never yet gone to Jacques.

(* For clarity: My bisexuality is a matter of sexual pleasure, not attraction, romance, or emotional involvement beyond friendship. I haven't been with a man sexually in more years than I can count. But if the occasion, ahem, arose, I would enjoy the encounter.)

MacShreach
12-15-2005, 02:12 PM
no problem with gay clubs, i just don't like clubs period. i just like to sit at bars with my friends and shoot the sh!t. i hate not being able to actually talk to people.?

Ah, you see Scottish=Celt=Dancin' Fool. We are the only str8 white men who can dance. It's in the genes. I do like good music and I like it VERY LOUD. I amaze myself that I can still hear at all, I put it down to having used earplugs since I was in my teens.......

bolton113
12-17-2005, 02:44 PM
Since so many guys have taken issue with being "straight", or "bi, or "gay" when it comes down regarding liking girls, I was wondering...

Are you comfortable with being able to look at another guy and judge how hot he is? Are you comfortable with looking at him naked? Are you comfortable hanging out with gay people or going to gay clubs (without Tgirls or drag queens around)?


I don't get it either! no, no, and no! lol

fisheyboy
12-17-2005, 04:20 PM
I can definatly look at another guy and say if he is hot or not eg. David Beckham. i have no problem with gay people, just sometimes they can be too in your face camp gay. being bi i do find myself not being comfortable with myself being naked :-P
:lol:

BOATER
12-17-2005, 10:04 PM
Ask me this 5 years ago I would have said hell no. But now, most defiently, I can honestly say if a guy is not or not. I'm comfortable with myself enough to say that. That doesn't mean I am attracted to the guy, but I know what is hot.
I got to the gym regually to keep body looking good. So I can look at a guy or myself and say nice abs, arms or whatever.
As for going out to all gay club. I have and could. Would I be a regular, no. But if a freind invited me I would go. Going doesn't make me gay nor will it change what I am attracted to. But I wouldn't go there just to go, but that is just like me not choosing to go to a heavy metal bar. It is just not my thing.

E. Lee
12-18-2005, 03:34 AM
I can look at a guy and say "he's ripped or built" no problem...it's nothing sexual. Some people are straight, some are bi-sexual and some of us are try-sexual....you know, just try-ing to have sex. Sorry, that was a bad one.

MsDazzler
04-02-2007, 01:19 AM
I wanted to bump this up because I think this is sorta relevant to the other current thread, "How many of you guys..". lol

syntax
04-02-2007, 03:47 AM
I find it funnier that so many people have posted so little since 2005...

they kinda "got the tgirl bug" for a little while, and then decided to stop coming here.

Most likely after they realised that they couldn't organise sex here :lol:

Viridian
04-02-2007, 06:09 AM
I don't like gay men. Too loud and screechy. Plus they give me the wiggins.