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hockeytnt
12-14-2005, 05:38 PM
Just a random question here that has come to my head for all the other dudes on the site.

If you were dating a TGIRL and you two were pretty serious, maybe even looking to spend the rest of your lives together. Would you be FOR or AGAINST her having her special something something turned into a vagina (if she wanted it).

I personally am very much attracted to a woman that has a cock, i dont think it would be the same for me. I personally am attracted to pre-ops alot more then genetic girls. It would personally turn me off. And i know everyone is going to say that if you love the girl it doesnt matter. I understand that..but personally it would matter to me.

Its the same thing as if a guy was dating a genetic girl who for some reason wanted to have a cock put on, if the guy doesnt like tgirls he would be completly against the idea. (that was the only example i could think of)


LEts here your thoughts.

Ecstatic
12-14-2005, 06:51 PM
I am quite definitely attracted to a beautiful woman with a cock (I get hard just thinking about it), but that's only a small matter in the scheme of things. Really, what it comes to is what she wants to feel complete in herself. If I were in an LTR with a transgendered woman who wanted her SRS, then I would be totally supportive of her decision. (Of course, that's entirely hypothetical since I am married to a wonderful gg, but I also feel that way about the tgirls I know and love as friends.)

AugenGn.
12-14-2005, 06:59 PM
if i were in it for the duration, her happiness, particularly with herself, would be paramount...no ifs, ands, or buts.

MsDazzler
12-14-2005, 08:50 PM
Just a random question here that has come to my head for all the other dudes on the site.

If you were dating a TGIRL and you two were pretty serious, maybe even looking to spend the rest of your lives together. Would you be FOR or AGAINST her having her special something something turned into a vagina (if she wanted it).

I personally am very much attracted to a woman that has a cock, i dont think it would be the same for me. I personally am attracted to pre-ops alot more then genetic girls. It would personally turn me off. And i know everyone is going to say that if you love the girl it doesnt matter. I understand that..but personally it would matter to me.

Its the same thing as if a guy was dating a genetic girl who for some reason wanted to have a cock put on, if the guy doesnt like tgirls he would be completly against the idea. (that was the only example i could think of)


LEts here your thoughts.

Is this to mean that I will have to have this "conversation" with every guy I date seriously?

ME: "Umm... I want to talk to you about something."

HIM: "What, Sami?"

ME: "I was wondering, if I had SRS, how would you feel?"

HIM: "AGHHHH NOOOO!!!"

ME: "Oh, well, I guess this is good-bye."

Haha, I digress... I wish Tgirls did not have to face this kind of thing. But then again, perhaps I should seek straight guys who don't care about cocks than guys who are into Tgirls. Then I wouldn't have to face this issue, hmmm?

AugenGn.
12-15-2005, 12:16 AM
[...But then again, perhaps I should seek straight guys who don't care about cocks than guys who are into Tgirls. Then I wouldn't have to face this issue, hmmm?

maybe you just need to find a "guy" who'll be into the beautiful individual that you are....a tall order, i know :?

12-15-2005, 08:13 AM
Haha, I digress... I wish Tgirls did not have to face this kind of thing. But then again, perhaps I should seek straight guys who don't care about cocks than guys who are into Tgirls. Then I wouldn't have to face this issue, hmmm?

Surely that is the critical dilemma you girls face? If a man will go with a pre-op t-girl then by most standards that man is not quite straight. If you do date a really straight guy then I predict an interesting conversation the first time you move to the bedroom... .

The man must have thought about the fact that you are in possession of a penis and he must have formulated a response to that. I personally think that it would be impossible to just blot it out of your consciousness-- it's too big an issue. If he's together with you in a serious LTR he's no longer str8 by most standards, and has thought about this.


Following from that we come to this: if he loves you, and knows about it, then he must also love the ccck. You have to love the whole person. Therefore if in an LTR a t-girl announces she's going to have SRS the guy is going to be tested severely.

Some guys will fail the test. Put yourself in his position. He will have had to very closely re-examine their own sexuality, and he will probably have had to put up with a lot of shit because he is going with you. And the straighter he is the more he'll have had to think.

He will have had good, fun, exciting sex with you and even if he has always taken you as a woman, he will be in love with your body, including that bit of it. Unless you have taken extreme measures he will have seen you orgasm, and unless you are on heavy doses of hormones, that means he's seen you ejaculate. Ejaculate in response to the love he has been making with you. That there is quite a moment. It's asking a lot to assume that he will just say, "Yes, of course honey, have the SRS, I'm up for that." If he's a good man he might get there but it will take a while! (And even then I predict he's going to miss that thrill, and it will come back to haunt later.)

And on the other hand, if when you say "I'm going to SRS" he says "Great!" you're going to think that maybe he didn't love you so much when you did have a penis, and oops, you'll still have one when you anounce this, so you're going to look really hard at him and wonder if he really does love you.....the seeds of doubt will have been sown, my lovely.

I don't have any answers, but I do observe that the successful LTRs that I know of between post-op girls and men began after the completion of the girl's transition. In other words he never had sex with her while she had a cock. This is not a representative sample by any means, but it is interesting nonetheless.

MacShreach
12-15-2005, 08:15 AM
This is not a representative sample by any means, but it is interesting nonetheless.

Dang that last was me-- I forgot to log in again. I've set it to auto now. Best.

fun1990
12-16-2005, 04:27 PM
I agree, I wouldn't want a tgirl with that I am serious with to get a vagina. But I think if I loved her very much, I would let her if she really wanted too, but I would put in my two cents why she shouldn't do the surgery...The only problem is two cents is definitely not enough to pay for SRS surgery :)

Scott
12-16-2005, 04:35 PM
I can honestly say that if I was into the girl to the point to where there was thoughts of spending our lives together that would mean I would be loving her beyond physical attributes. With that said I would say it would not matter to me.
I would just want her happy and to help make her happy. Regardless of a penis or not I would stand by her side.


Scott

fun1990
12-16-2005, 04:41 PM
You are right Scott, but life is life, I mean lets just speak hypothetically (this would probably never happen in real life), if the person you love said they would like to destroy their vagina because they didn't want to have sex for the rest of their life, I don't think anyone here would be for that ( I could be wrong through)...however, you may accept it if it happened, but you would do everything you can to prevent it

Scott
12-16-2005, 05:02 PM
You are right Scott, but life is life, I mean lets just speak hypothetically (this would probably never happen in real life), if the person you love said they would like to destroy their vagina because they didn't want to have sex for the rest of their life, I don't think anyone here would be for that ( I could be wrong through)...however, you may accept it if it happened, but you would do everything you can to prevent it

but to compare an srs to destroying ones genitalia? That is wrong on so many levels. That's like telling every post op and future post ops that they are just being destructive. That's just crazy. It's not destroying. it's changing to make herself more the way SHE wants. It's supposed to be about her choices. Not for whatever sex partner she has at the time. If someone truly loves her they would support her no matter what. If you can't support the one you love you have no reason to be with that person because that is just plain selfish.
It's her body, her choice.

Scott

fun1990
12-16-2005, 07:49 PM
But would you express to hear that you wish her to remain with a penis, but that if she got SRS, you would still support it yet you would prefer she not. Additionally, we are not all floor mats. If she really loved you, do you think she should also consider what you want and not get the surgery? Love is not a one way street, its a two way and believe me, no matter how much you love someone, if only one gives all the time and other does not, that love will die.

MsDazzler
12-17-2005, 12:12 AM
But would you express to hear that you wish her to remain with a penis, but that if she got SRS, you would still support it yet you would prefer she not. Additionally, we are not all floor mats. If she really loved you, do you think she should also consider what you want and not get the surgery? Love is not a one way street, its a two way and believe me, no matter how much you love someone, if only one gives all the time and other does not, that love will die.

You have to love yourself first before you can love others. If one has a penis and does not love herself because she wants a vagina, then how can she love others?

Scott
12-17-2005, 12:43 AM
But would you express to hear that you wish her to remain with a penis, but that if she got SRS, you would still support it yet you would prefer she not. Additionally, we are not all floor mats. If she really loved you, do you think she should also consider what you want and not get the surgery? Love is not a one way street, its a two way and believe me, no matter how much you love someone, if only one gives all the time and other does not, that love will die.

I do realize that love is a two way street. That's a given. I'm sure she would discuss it with her partner being how big a life decision it is.
Everyone is different. I'm just stating my opinion on how I feel. My opinion is as I stated. If I loved her that much I would support her decision to do this. I don't see how her wanting to do something like this is being selfish. Any man going into a relationship with these ladies should realize there is a chance she may make this choice. I know there is a chance they may or may not make this choice. No matter what the choice I will support her decision. I will love her with or without it.

Scott

edgeoflife
12-20-2005, 12:09 PM
in the past i have dated pre-op and post op. heres how i look at it, if we were in love, id still look to her heart and not between her legs

XXX
12-20-2005, 01:35 PM
This is a dumb question why should a person even have a say in it,its the girls decision and nobodies else just because a guy has a cock fetish that shouldnt get in the way of a girls decision to have surgery or not. You love a person for the inside not the outside.

cool_guy_yea
12-21-2005, 01:47 AM
i guess i would have to say and dont want to be rude or nothing but if a guy wanted a women with a vigina then he would have dated one with one and if he dated a girl with a cock he would have wanted a cock so i say if you are planing on it tell them before hand so the know what there getting into

Alkemist
12-21-2005, 02:11 AM
I wouldn't mind to tell you the truth. Yeah, I do have an attraction to women with a little something extra. But first and foremost I just love women period. I would love my woman regardless of what was between her legs. If she wanted SRS, I wouldn't object in the slightest manner. Shit like that is just trivial to me.

erm...yeah.

kellylicious
12-21-2005, 02:24 AM
THIS THREAD IS COMICAL TO ME ON SO MANY LEVELS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!