question to other girls

ok so i get this alot but why do all guys who like ts think we are all
the same its like they think just cuz your a ts you automatcially wanna
fuck them in the ass or you want them to give you a blow job cuz i cant
speak for other ts women but me personally i dont go that way and they
always seemed surpised its like im becoming a women for a reason and i
want a sex change and then the still ask me how big i am i just think
thats the rudest thing to ask a women in my book its like im getting a
sex change for a reason so why would i wanna talk bout that part of my
body ?? anyways lol if any one eles feels me on this subject let me no
lol but tahts how i feel and no disrespect to the girls who do top and stuff to each there own like i said as ts women we are all different in what we like to do its just my preference and was wondering if any other girls felt the same way well ttyl :) happy thanksgiving to all

that was me sorry i forgot to sign n lol

[vmalone23ts]

ok i got it this time lol damn blond moments

Well, the way I see it is that only a very small percentage actually go for SRS. So, that means the vast majority are non-op. I think what you are experincing is just that since the vast majority of TGs don't want to get rid of their equipment, guys just expect this. And it's not like they aren't getting lots of "positive reinforcement" in thinking the way they do. It's the problem of being in the minority in any are: people expect the "standard" (never to be confused with "normal"), and those who fall outside that standard bear the cross of being different. It's even harder for those in similar situations to you: that being that there's no outward signals to separate you from the other group: you look just like any other beautiful TS, so guys focus on what they want.

[Danny Partridge]

And I'm not even blond (and I did sign in before that post... I wonder what happened?)

[Britchlins]

i've found that a few times when i was still dating, dont get me wrong, it can be fun and all, but not really my thing. my hubby wasnt into being with a pre-op when we first got together. he had already had his surgeries and been married once by the time we met. he NEVER once asked me to do anything like that, he gave me the option the week before i left for montreal but i politely turned him down. he's a mans man, he's no gay guy by any stretch of the imagination, he just thought he would offer himself up as a "last fling with old equipment" he was relieved when i said no, lol. i've never really been into anal, just felt all wrong and gay and etc etc, not that i would hold out on him or anything, just i never enjoyed it as much as i enjoy sex now being post-op. good old vanilla sex never felt so good!

i think they think that way because of all the crap online.... they dont know any better. there are many different flavours of TS out there, just the ones that get most coverage are escorts, cam grrls and jerry springer grrls.

i think as time wears on things will change and there will be more understanding. and hopefully less violence *crosses fingers* and we will be treated as individuals instead of whatever they see in the media.

[Danny Partridge]

Oh, one thing I left out:

If you hang out with tranny chasers.......... don't be surprised when they chase tranny's. In other words, if you go out with a person who is specifically seeking a TS (as opposed to someone seeking a girlfriend, who just happens to be open to seeing someone transgenedered), it can't be too big of a surprise when it turns out there's a reason why. Think about it; why would a guy specifically look for a TS rather than a GG? What's the difference between a TS and a GG?

[vmalone23ts]

ya i no that im just saying i wish guys wouldnt always asume that and not start off the convo with how big are you its just not very nice thats all i mean dont get me wrong i love men alot lol i just wish theyd do alot more thinking before they speak lol cuz even after i tell them i want a sex change they still go wtih the how big are you and so forth so its like they dont even listen to me when i said i watned to go post op but oh well cant live with them and cant live with out em :0 this wasnt ment to be a negitive post at all i was just wanting other peoples opions thats all :) but i so no what you mean i just hope i can find a guy who dont mind a post op once i do have the surgery well ttyl
:)

[Danny Partridge]

This isn't just TS problem, it's a "guys who are jerks" problem. Even if you were a total top, how should you react if the first words out of a guy's mouth were "how big are you". Even if you were hung like a horse and loved to use it, isn't it still offensive?

I guess the only time it would be appropriate would be if a girl was hanging out in a known stroll, and "everyone knew" that all the conversations were for the purpose of transacting business. In that case (only), I guess it would be appropriate.

[suchgreatheights]

eh the only reasons really for SRS is mostly based on practical stuff. Like one would be the legal reason. Just easier and less embarrassing when u're doing stuff which requires IDs, background info etc...

And the other is to be able to have less apprehension with guys. I think chances are that most guys would freak out more if they discover u to still have a penis, say when making out... more than if u told him that u were postop....

ok so i get this alot but why do all guys who like ts think we are all
the same its like they think just cuz your a ts you automatcially wanna
fuck them in the ass or you want them to give you a blow job cuz i cant
speak for other ts women but me personally i dont go that way and they
always seemed surpised its like im becoming a women for a reason and i
want a sex change and then the still ask me how big i am i just think
thats the rudest thing to ask a women in my book its like im getting a
sex change for a reason so why would i wanna talk bout that part of my
body ??

And about the original post... I think most guys have the idea that TS have lower standards and (some even think that they deserve less than GGs), therefore assume that we are desperate. Like some think we would have any guy who comes along and that becos of our status, we're more willing to give sexual favors just to get in their good books. Alot of them seem to miss out the point too that we are judged so much based on passability, and sometimes these same people get angry if we mention that they are not goodlooking enough.

[Danny Partridge]

I'm sure the thought process is:

1) guys will fuck anything that walks.... I know I will and I'm a guy
2) this is a guy who looks like a girl
3) therefore she will fuck anything that walks, like me.

[Danny Partridge]

eh the only reasons really for SRS is mostly based on practical stuff. Like one would be the legal reason. Just easier and less embarrassing when u're doing stuff which requires IDs, background info etc...
.

So you're saying that you don't believe that there are TS's who "won't feel complete" until they have had GRS?

[vmalone23ts]

ya i no i just wish sometimes guys would look at us ts women for more then a quick thrill and more as a person like for instance the other day this guy who i met once we had a good time together and stuff then like he was saying he wanted to hang out agian and i said sure we could do that we could go to a movie he said that owuld be cool then when i said i can only go if i could come up with the money he was like well or we can just drive around im thinking to my self if this guy really wanted to see me he shouldnt have a prob paying for 8 dollars to go see a movie with me but instead he was just wanting to come over and get a blow job or something guys should learn that girls are more likely to fool around if they atleast take them out first lol you cant just expect a girl to want to fool around if you cant even take them out and show them a good time (non sexual) god i must sound like a raging lesbian lol but really im not im just getting alittle fed up with the way guys are aprouching me online so i have to vent somewhere anyways im sure im rambling now and im not saying its all the guys fault cuz i do have some pics online that mabye i shouldnt put on there cuz it might give guys the wrong idea but most of my pics are just of my face and i do that for a reason cuz i want people to get to no me not my body :) hope everyone has a good turkey day i gotta get back to helping my mom ill be back ;0

[Danny Partridge]

Wow.... 8 bucks... and I thought I was a cheap motherfucker......

[roseofsapphire]

Well, the way I see it is that only a very small percentage actually go for SRS. So, that means the vast majority are non-op. I think what you are experincing is just that since the vast majority of TGs don't want to get rid of their equipment, guys just expect this. And it's not like they aren't getting lots of "positive reinforcement" in thinking the way they do. It's the problem of being in the minority in any are: people expect the "standard" (never to be confused with "normal"), and those who fall outside that standard bear the cross of being different. It's even harder for those in similar situations to you: that being that there's no outward signals to separate you from the other group: you look just like any other beautiful TS, so guys focus on what they want.

I don't think this is very true at all. I don't think it is a question of wanting to keep the parts they have, I think it is more a question of should they risk it and do they have the money ($15,000+).

[Danny Partridge]

Perhaps I've been lied to, but I've met many TS non-ops who have claimed that they intend to stay non-op by choice, and wouldn't do it even if someone else paid for it.

[vmalone23ts]

ya alot of girls dont wanna do it cuz mabye there scard i no alot of the times once you get it done your not special so to speak anymore and i think somepeople are afarid of that or that they wont be wanted i just wanna be complet thats all its not bout having a pussy or not i just wanna be complete cuz having a vagina wont make me anymore of a women then any other girl in here

[Britchlins]

do you know what to do when some guy asks you how big you are? you just tell him "i'm bigger then you'll ever be baby" and that should settle him down :twisted:

[suchgreatheights]

So you're saying that you don't believe that there are TS's who "won't feel complete" until they have had GRS?

I'm not sure what you mean exactly but I'd think that some people would tend to feel that way since its probably the *final* surgery needed to become legally female.

This term "won't feel complete" is so... weird. I think it means different things to the different individuals.

[lisaparadise]

you nailed it right on the head about not being special,in most ways thats so true but not entirey.lets face it for the most part shemales escort,whats between our legs makes us so very much in demand,im spoilled when it comes to my dick to be honest i love my mrs wiggly lol ive had one major seperation{wife} already i wont make it another.the only thing is by losing it wouldnt make me anymore of a woman in anyway shape or form ,but what it would do is take me of the americas most wanted list lol and i would miss all the money and friends i have and will make.

[cajun]

very ignorant for a post of this nature Lisa,i feel all will agree-cajun

[~*~ShyGurL~*~]

it really surprises me why foreigners who likes ts's likes to suck and likes to get fucked while filipino men doesnt even want to see it!

i no some girl was saying how over there they dont even want anything to do with it cuz they accually see the ts as women and dont think of them any different i think sometimes i wish some guys over here was like that to ive met a few guys who want nothing to do with whats between my legs they just liked me for me like ive had 2 bfs my whole life and they was both like that they wanted absolutly nothing to do with it cuz they was str8 so it was nice to meet guys who was into me and not whats between my legs im sure theres alot of guys like that out there there just hard to find just like im sure they think the same thing bout ts mabye they have a hard time finding a girl who wants the surgery and doesnt want them to give them head or fuck them in the ass cuz they aint down with it that way when ever tring to find a soal mate its never met to be easy theres someone out there for anyone :) well ttyl
valerie

[vmalone23ts]

the last guest commet is mine i thought i had this set up to auto matcially sign me in but i guess i forgot this time

they think this way because they think, we think like they do ,being born genetically male .
its pretty sad when they do not know that transexualism isnt something we choose we,re born with it we think more like women(female brain wave patern etc etc)we do not have the same desire as the male at all just because we were born with dick doesnt mean we wanna use it,if these guys still think of us as the active role in bed then they must be gay :lol: "male are the active role in bed not females"

[~*~ShyGurL~*~]

i agree with Guest, i've always defined straight men as those who dont like to get fucked and those who dont suck...

[vmalone23ts]

i totally agree with the guest you nailed that right on