Woman killed In Syracuse NY for being TG

[Jordan]

Yet another horrible sad story..may she R.I.P.
http://www.9wsyr.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=823fc66e-ca4f-40c6-b126-7a79b59652ce

[Jim Beaux]

There appears to be some evidence to show that when you elect a Democrat for President, this type of hate crime increases.

It's another truly pointless death.

What does society gain from flushing 2 lives down the toilet?

[Jordan]

There appears to be some evidence to show that when you elect a Democrat for President, this type of hate crime increases.

It's another truly pointless death.

What does society gain from flushing 2 lives down the toilet?

Oh c'mon now Jim, you may be on the other side of the pond but YOU even know that hate and ignorance has absolutely nothing to do with a president elect democrat!!

[Jim Beaux]

Oh c'mon now Jim, you may be on the other side of the pond but YOU even know that hate and ignorance has absolutely nothing to do with a president elect democrat!!

Jordan,

True, hate and ignorance has nothing to do with ..... Just hate and ignorance.

On your side of the pond the left wing won. History suggests that, at least for a while, the right wing kicks up and hate crimes hit a peak.

Just take care.

OK?

[Jordan]

I'm in no danger but thanks for the well wishes!! A Democratic commander in chief is what we need at this time, but we can save political views for another time, let's just agree to disagree!!

[Jim Beaux]

Woman killed ... for being TG looks right to me.

Can we agree to agree? :)

[Mandy M]

Syracuse is a rough town, and TS are not treated well there. I came out in Syracuse and started my transistion there. I was harassed all the time, wherever I went.

Besides the university up on the hill, there aint shit in Syracuse (except for that stupid mall that people are always killing themselves at), and there is a lot of violence.

My roommate was robbed 3 times in one week in front of our house, and beat up the last time.

So glad I got out of there, though I do miss some of the kind people in my old neighborhood (and some of the kids)

[aries666]

Thank god I live in a city like Toronto. To live in a place like Syracuse, where, according to Mandy, so much intolerance exists would be terrible. Unless someone can prove it by showing statistics bad things happen irregardless of which party is in office.

[afroauthor]

Another terrible crime against a transgendered person.

I could see how right-wingers would react in that way to a democratic electee, but without any evidence of any sort to support your claim Jim that seems like a rather drastic accusation.

Regardless of why or who perpetrated this crime, the result doesn't change, we have lost another. My condolences go out to her family and all of those she leaves behind.

[Trogdor]

I could see how right-wingers would react in that way to a democratic electee, but without any evidence of any sort to support your claim Jim that seems like a rather drastic accusation.

History tends to show that it's easier to blame Democrats for any problems ( even if they did not cause them. ) than it is to blame Republicans.

It's odd, I still don't understand why, but that's what I've been noticing. :p

[Jim Beaux]

I could see how right-wingers would react in that way to a democratic electee, but without any evidence of any sort to support your claim Jim that seems like a rather drastic accusation.


I subscribe to a news service that picks up (English) news on the TG situation. And GLBT where relevant. And intersex where relevant.

That service is picking up numerous reports of increased violence against TG, and against GLB. I can't say I've seen anything on this relevant to intersex/violence.

The service also publishes the views of the opposition, from various groups, mostly in the US. Those views are getting more forceful. For example, the demos against Proposition 8 have resulted in much stronger rhetoric from such groups. The comments attached are also more inflamed - I've seen numerous that state that murder would be the best solution.

This isn't politics. Nobody is threatening to go out and find a Democrat to murder, or to find a Republican to murder.

It's psychology. At times of stress, people group with like minded people. Group psychology means views tend to become more extreme. In other words, there is support for more extreme rhetoric, more extreme action.

Since it's psychology, you'd expect to see it in both camps - more extreme words, more extreme views. And that's what I'm seeing.

I can't find the link, but there's a Youtube video out there of a TV news channel trying to interview a grey haired little old lady. They are prevented from doing so by dozens of placard waving men (who happen to be out on a rally against the passing of Proposition 8 ).

The little old lady had approached the group carrying a large cross. She was then nearly knocked over, the cross was knocked to the ground and deliberately trampled. Then for 10 minutes this baying group of demonstrators stopped the old lady from being interviewed live on TV.

The wiser heads in my news feed are pointing out that this kind of extreme behaviour is playing into the hands of those who support Proposition 8. And such an easy propoganda victory is certainly turning up on anti-GLBT sites, using particularly strong language.

Although my feed isn't set up specifically to monitor the racial situation, it also has some evidence that violence against black people is higher than normal.

Then there's a current news story about Obama making sure his team going forward does not discriminate on the basis of GLB or on the basis of T. Rhetoric on the supporters side sees this as a major step forward. Rhetoric on the opponents side see this as clear proof of the need to resist as hard as possible. Sadly, I'm not seeing a tone that is balanced, in either camp.

I'd love to be proved wrong on this. But it looks like there will be a peak in anti-GLB violence. And a peak in anti-black violence. And a peak in anti-T violence.

It has been pointed out on many TDOR sites that there is a disproportionate number of black people in the TDOR list - they hit more buttons than comparable white people. We'll see what happens when TDOR 2009 rolls around.

[Wondergirl]

It is true that hate crimes or racist feeling against black people increase after the election of Barack Obama, but i don't know if it applies to this particular case. After all, trans people are killed everyday probably, for being trans.

I wouldn't know if Toronto is really that much safer, although it depends on alot more things like occupation or income or housing, than which cities i suppose..unless you live in the middle east or africa.

[Wondergirl]

I agree with Jim, especially when we are in a recession "other" people are blamed all the time, immigrants, muslims, mexicans, gay , women, trans, black people etc etc for the cause of economic recession or job losses.