Is HA down again ?

[Li'l Zé]

Unable to connect,anybody else having this problem?

[Nicole Dupree]

From what I hear, NYCe is insulted, angry, and doing something about it.

[Li'l Zé]

Thanks

[Mandy M]

From what I hear, NYCe is insulted, angry, and doing something about it.

I figured it had something to do with that, wow that thread went downhill fast.

[Ecstatic]

Is that the case, Nicole? I was wondering. I'd also heard rumors of a server upgrade, but that's no excuse to not have the site responding at all. Sure, moving the forum and database can cause downtime, but not this long, and in any case, the server is responding but not the website.

Hey, better for us here--less drama!

[Nicole Dupree]

Don't they all. But I simply followed the advice of a mod concerning how to deal w/ the current trolls.

However, since Seanchai obviously has personal issues with his fellow mods, with NYCe, with Mimi, and with other American transsexuals who are not in alignment with his agenda; imo, his posts brought everything to a head. Funny how he voiced his opinion on that thread, but he remains silent when girls are being threatened to get beaten up and/or harrassed. But maybe if his "value system" kicked in with more consistency, it wouldn't have backfired quite so horribly on him and, in turn, the whole forum.

[BeardedOne]

Remember when 'going down' was fun? :/

[seanchai]

Don't they all. But I simply followed the advice of a mod concerning how to deal w/ the current trolls.

However, since Seanchai obviously has personal issues with his fellow mods, with NYCe, with Mimi, and with other American transsexuals who are not in alignment with his agenda; imo, his posts brought everything to a head. Funny how he voiced his opinion on that thread, but he remains silent when girls are being threatened to get beaten up and/or harrassed. But maybe if his "value system" kicked in with more consistency, it wouldn't have backfired quite so horribly on him and, in turn, the whole forum.


Nicole, you'll be the first person to be banned twice on this site if you continue with this rubbish.
My points were valid and I've spoke up for many TS's getting attacked in the past on that forum including you.
Miss Mimi made some very bad comments which were untrue and in-correct, I'll let you know she first appeared on BTG in 2006, with signed releases and ID's proving she was more than the age of consent.

I have no issues with any mods on that boards and NYCe is a friend of mine whom I've discussed things on many occassions.

Maybe if you didn't jump to conclusions, personally attack people yourself and consider yourself some sort of vigilante for all things T - then other people wouldn't have to question why you need to consistently bring things to a head and be the person in the middle of the fights. You need to look at your own actions and not pass the blame to others.

seanchai

[flabbybody]

At my advanced age, I'm not sure if I can start out on a new site as a newb.
so this is seanchai's gig?
ecstatic, r u a mod?

[seanchai]

Flabby, you'll be more than welcome here.

Ecstatic is a mod as well as some of the girls (Kalina and Jordan) as well as AnthonyL who keeps everything running well.

I'm sure HA will be back up soon - but in the meantime (or if you want somewhere more chilled) come over here :-)

[MystiquEvolution]

I have no clue what happened over there, but I can't say I'm surprised. There was nothing but drama there most of the time. It's ashame too because I miss a few people. In the event that HA is down for some time, does that mean the trolls will soon migrate here? I sure hope not.

[seanchai]

I have no clue what happened over there, but I can't say I'm surprised. There was nothing but drama there most of the time. It's ashame too because I miss a few people. In the event that HA is down for some time, does that mean the trolls will soon migrate here? I sure hope not.

Highly unlikely Mystique, these are two different styles of forums and both have their places but not everything will be able to cross-over.
I think the mods will keep it low drama here.

[marissaaz]

i miss all the good stuff

[ottorocket]

Hopefully when HA returns it gets a new color as well...lol

[KellyShore]

I was told there was a number of things, and Allanah complaining to the wrong person and/or people in New York was the last straw for Nyce, by JohnnyWalker and Nyce in the Userplane Chatroom. I was also told it would be down indefinitely till he changes his mind. But Nyce was told of how the mods were being hated on, how mods were hating on one another, how certain mods were signing onto phoney names to go after girls on the board, how mods would erase comments and/or change what the poster said to better suit their public appearance. This is what I was told by both.


And I can confirm it had nothing to do with Seanchai! No offense to Nicole. Johnny said the argument between him and Mimi was a business matter and not in the least concerned HungAngels. Thats their business and noone elses.

[Mandy M]

Well, in the last week I cut 2 out of my 3 most consuming addictions out of my life, drugs and cigarettes, why not HA as well, sure it brings in the occasional buck, but it also makes me feel very sad when I look at it too much, for a number of reasons. So maybe this break will be good for me, deep down I'm a really kind and gentle soul, but that place tends to bring out the worst in me (kind of like a mama mountain lion when you get near her cubs). Not too mention (this is my issue, I own up to it) the more I try and promote my business there, the worse I feel about my body, and the more hopeless I feel about my prospects, and the more freaked out I feel about my work as an escort.

I appreciate the kindness and civility that is generally displayed here, except for a certain thread a while back in the ladies room, and I would like to use this space as a place to share info, resources, as well as promote my business.

I wish the people from HA that I have known (electronically, since the only people I've ever met in person are lurkers, besides Buddy and Frank) nothing but the best, and hopefully things will resolve itself.

xoxo
mandy

[ottorocket]

So it was a few bad apples, spoiling for the whole bunch?

[seanchai]

So it was a few bad apples, spoiling for the whole bunch?

It will be back up.
It makes too much money to be down for a long time.

[syntax]

it's this kind of madness which makes me ignore HA

although...now i'm intrigued to know what everyone is talking about...

I might have to take a wander over there once its back up and running...

[WendyWilliams]

Kelly sweetie trust there is more than what you are "reporting". I wont return to HA if its the same mod's, simple. I stopped posting here for personal reasons awhile back and recently returned to check out the feel. The boards are addictive so maybe its really a blessing in disguise for me LOL. Note I think the moderators here as a whole are very fair and have no hidden agenda or personal gain from being a mod so thats why its more civil again as a whole, lol.

TIME TO FOCUS

[maggiegee]

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[Michelle730]

"I'm a troll and now I'm banned" :-(

[WendyWilliams]

Kink pays 1500 a scene,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

From their site:

TS Woman Tops
$1500 - Full nude, blow job, anally penetrate sub
Male Subs
$500 - Force oral and anal play

[Michelle730]

"I'm a troll and now I'm banned" :-(

[Michelle730]

"I'm a troll and now I'm banned" :-(

[WendyWilliams]

Sweetie you didnt clarify that. If you was paid $500 by Grooby is was probably for photos only.

Also Kink requires MUCH more from their actress than Grooby does, they are hardcore fetish.

I dont need any lessons, I think Ive been in class for a few years and graduated awhile back.

Wendy Williams
3 Time Avn Nominee "Transsexual Peformer of the Year"
1 of only 3 Independant Transsexual Producers/Company Owners
One of the largest Solo shemale websites
Multiple Avn Production Nominees

Class is Over!

[Ecstatic]

At my advanced age, I'm not sure if I can start out on a new site as a newb.
so this is seanchai's gig?
ecstatic, r u a mod?

Hey flabbybody, welcome to TgirlTalk! I remember you welcoming me to HA lo these many years ago, and now you've wandered over here. I've been a mod for sometime here, and also an admin, assisting Anthony L on forum backend stuff when needed.

Anyway I hope you like it here; there's less activity than at HA but also a lot less drama, and a good group of folks.

[Quinn]

Hopefully when HA returns it gets a new color as well...lol

LOL... I was thinking the same thing.

-Quinn

[Nicole Dupree]

Nicole, you'll be the first person to be banned twice on this site if you continue with this rubbish.
My points were valid and I've spoke up for many TS's getting attacked in the past on that forum including you.
Miss Mimi made some very bad comments which were untrue and in-correct, I'll let you know she first appeared on BTG in 2006, with signed releases and ID's proving she was more than the age of consent.

I have no issues with any mods on that boards and NYCe is a friend of mine whom I've discussed things on many occassions.

Maybe if you didn't jump to conclusions, personally attack people yourself and consider yourself some sort of vigilante for all things T - then other people wouldn't have to question why you need to consistently bring things to a head and be the person in the middle of the fights. You need to look at your own actions and not pass the blame to others.

seanchaiFrom what I understand, NYCe didn't like being called the "hidden emperor in a hood", or whatever you called him. And personally, I don't see why you commented on the petition being signed by "American" transsexuals anyway. What's the difference if we're American? We generate real money in this industry, don't we? And, Seanchai, if you want to ban me because I don't necessarily agree with you, do it. You, in fact, banned Moni from this forum, so I don't see why you took issue with her being banned under her alias there, or any of the other trolls that plague HA. But that's your call. Btw, I don't recall you speaking up for me. At least I know you never did when I was being called "he" or being threatened by Echimandu.

[seanchai]

Nicole, I've known NYCe for quite sometime and I think if he didn't get the comment about being "The Emperor", then he's lost the sense of humour which I know he has. So I very much doubt it and from what I understand, it's got very little to do with me.

I actually never knew Moni was posting under a different name on that forum until someone mentioned it yesterday.

Your so blind to everything but your own point of view that you failed to see what my point was - that individuals who are attacking others shouldn't have a say in who should be banned or not and that it shouldn't need to be a public witchhunt. The individual in question more than proved my point by not only making up lies about my site but by potentially bringing down grevious issues onto HA. How can you agree that what she stated, was valid or worthwhile?

Your relatively new to this industry, yet you seem more interested in listening to people who have no vested interest in this industry. People whose opinions and actions are based more on ego and on having "worshippers" than those trying to create a safe, conscientious business model.

You may well think I had nothing to do with posts being said about/against you on that forum and if I'd seen you instigate an attack on you by attacking someone else, it's unlikely I would have taken action. However, I have taken action against unwarranted attacks against not only you but other individuals on their personal appearances and such - probably more so than others. Contrary to popular belief, I'm not online 24/7 - nor do I read every post.

Your ban won't come from disagreeing with me. Your ban will come from your previous edited post, repeating lies and delibrately trying to create an issue. You knew exactly what the response to that post would be, so don't act all naive about it. It's your choice.

seanchai

[Mandy M]

Kink pays 1500 a scene,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

From their site:

TS Woman Tops
$1500 - Full nude, blow job, anally penetrate sub
Male Subs
$500 - Force oral and anal play

Am I missing something, I was too busy having sex (for fun:-D) and discussing my future. How did TSSeduction enter the picture?

[seanchai]

Am I missing something, I was too busy having sex (for fun:-D) and discussing my future. How did TSSeduction enter the picture?

A "new" member, never seen before on this site makes a first time post bitching about being "my hoe" and us paying so little ... and then tried to teach Ms. Williams all about the industry. Hmmmm.

[Mandy M]

I've never thought of myself particularly as a suckup, though it is just a short step from cocksucker I realize. Anyways, Steven has been very supportive of me, when not many other people in the industry have been, and I've always enjoyed working with Grooby, and will continue to in the future.

I just don't give a shit about any of the drama. I want to pay off my house, and I want to have a kid with my sweetie. The bullshit and drama gets in the way.

I've dealt with a ton of shit in my life that would make most peoples skin crawl, from fundamentalist bigoted abusive parents to nasty railroad cops. And I bet every girl whose able to stick her head up high at the end of the day has her own triumphs, so why let a bunch of shitheels bring you down?

I believe that the TS community has real enemies, and they are not a bunch of mean spirited wankers, they are those people who would round us up and force us to convert or die. They are those people who would jail us, rape us, rob us.

So I'm sorry to sound preachy or whatever, but really why bother with the BS any longer. Can we get back to loving on each other all ready?

[Mandy M]

A "new" member, never seen before on this site makes a first time post bitching about being "my hoe" and us paying so little ... and then tried to teach Ms. Williams all about the industry. Hmmmm.

Yawn....

[seanchai]

I's a got nothing but love baby!

The bullshit is part of the industry, it happens. Too many opinions, too many wannabe-impressing-nobodies, who end up scaring away some great people, etc.

I've been called worse over the last 10 yrs and I'm sure I will again - I'm one of the few non-TS webmasters (the other being Bob) who posts his real name and photos out there and everyone knows where I'll be (at the shows, etc), so anybody with real issues is welcome to come down and discuss them in person ... civilised, like!

[Nicole Dupree]

Your ban will come from your previous edited post, repeating lies and delibrately trying to create an issue. You knew exactly what the response to that post would be, so don't act all naive about it. It's your choice.

seanchaiI edited nothing. But you will get what you want anyway. I will leave your forum.

[seanchai]

I edited nothing. But you will get what you want anyway. I will leave your forum.

I edited it - as it was untrue. slanderous and as previously stated, reposted specifially to cause a problem/start a fight. I can really do without getting lawyers involved as they usually cost more than they're worth, so a simple edit saves a lot of time, money and energy.

[Quinn]

For what it’s worth, NYCe posted a reply to the petition for banning thread stating that he didn’t want to be bothered with what he referred to as either “shit” or “bullshit.” (I can’t remember which.) For some reason, a minute or two after that response was posted, it was promptly removed. It wasn’t too long after the aforementioned event that HA went down.

That said, I don't think my speculating whether or not that's a coincidence serves any particular purpose – so I'll leave that for others.

-Quinn

[flabbybody]

I was told there was a number of things, and Allanah complaining to the wrong person and/or people in New York was the last straw for Nyce, by JohnnyWalker and Nyce in the Userplane Chatroom. I was also told it would be down indefinitely till he changes his mind. But Nyce was told of how the mods were being hated on, how mods were hating on one another, how certain mods were signing onto phoney names to go after girls on the board, how mods would erase comments and/or change what the poster said to better suit their public appearance. This is what I was told by both.


And I can confirm it had nothing to do with Seanchai! No offense to Nicole. Johnny said the argument between him and Mimi was a business matter and not in the least concerned HungAngels. Thats their business and noone elses.

Kelly, this is not directed towards you, but I was getting to feel that the girls given mod status on userplane were busy luring guys into the room and then getting a big kick out banning everyone except for a small click who they
deemed "cool" enough to see their vids. I didn't feel like registering and then getting thrown out by someone having a bad hormone day.

[WendyWilliams]

Flabby you are so correct, I was banned the moment I went into the room and noone could explain why or who do it, an admirer ofmine was taking up for me when apparently some of the ts mods , a male mod and a few fuck heads where attacking me and telling him he was "stupid" for thinking I was hot, ::whatever:: so he as then banned,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Its so high school. Girls on power kicks, that whole fight club shit, males who think they know everythign about the ts community because of craigslist and parties, youtube fights, and the list goes on.............Can we really blame him for shutting it down.

Freedom of Speech is not an escuse for ignorance and taking advantage of a privilige.

I hope to see it return but I hope he reorganizes it,,,,,,,,Ive been a member for five years plus, actually I think Allanah and I were some of the first ts's taking part there and over time its gotten worse............Ive met some really great people from HA but the everday shit on that board was killing it.

[seanchai]

Freedom of Speech is not an escuse for ignorance and taking advantage of a privilige.


Well said.

Do you have a forum Wendy? I couldn't find one at your site but it would be a useful thing to have for interaction with your fans. Make it public and not private/members only.

[KellyShore]

Kelly sweetie trust there is more than what you are "reporting". I wont return to HA if its the same mod's, simple. I stopped posting here for personal reasons awhile back and recently returned to check out the feel. The boards are addictive so maybe its really a blessing in disguise for me LOL. Note I think the moderators here as a whole are very fair and have no hidden agenda or personal gain from being a mod so thats why its more civil again as a whole, lol.

TIME TO FOCUS I can totally agree with what you said Wendy.

[KellyShore]

Kelly, this is not directed towards you, but I was getting to feel that the girls given mod status on userplane were busy luring guys into the room and then getting a big kick out banning everyone except for a small click who they
deemed "cool" enough to see their vids. I didn't feel like registering and then getting thrown out by someone having a bad hormone day. Flabbybody no offense to some of the mens intelligence on Hung Angels, I had to make a chart how to use userplane even. And some guys were assuming they were "BANNED" when we blocked them which means ignore. So they can't view our webcams or listen to what we had to say under "Anonymous" It takes 5 seconds to choose a name with out registering and 5 minutes to register. So guys kept saying they were "banned" because they could see us on the list but couldn't see what we we were saying or view our webcams. I would like to say I have never banned anyone from the room unless asked to by Johnny. I am not scared of a battle as you may know. So what they have to say to me is fine they can call me anything they want as long as I get my say into! lol

On the banning Kira is trigger happy on the anonymous users for some reason Wendy, she hardly gives them a chance to do anything. Why I do not know but she doesn't. And on the argument about you, I banned him and the other party, cause I thought it was "Crass" and it just led to more people attacking and arguing.

[Juliana_Dominguez]

so all those cock bandits from Hungangels will be migrating here on tgirltalk then... oh God, and for sure there's gunna be lots of drama in here too if that happened.

[River]

cock bandit lol

[Ecstatic]

I don't know which other forums are drawing some of the posters from HA, but in addition to this one, Vicki Richter's forum also has drawn a lot of them. Hers is a friendlier, kinder forum than HA, but it is pornstar-centric, which is more aligned to HA in general perhaps than this forum. And there are others out there as well.

I welcome the increased activity here! But I hope and trust our members will remain civil and that newbies will adapt.

[flabbybody]

Flabbybody no offense to some of the mens intelligence on Hung Angels, I had to make a chart how to use userplane even. And some guys were assuming they were "BANNED" when we blocked them which means ignore. So they can't view our webcams or listen to what we had to say under "Anonymous" It takes 5 seconds to choose a name with out registering and 5 minutes to register. So guys kept saying they were "banned" because they could see us on the list but couldn't see what we we were saying or view our webcams. I would like to say I have never banned anyone from the room unless asked to by Johnny. I am not scared of a battle as you may know. So what they have to say to me is fine they can call me anything they want as long as I get my say into! lol

On the banning Kira is trigger happy on the anonymous users for some reason Wendy, she hardly gives them a chance to do anything. Why I do not know but she doesn't. And on the argument about you, I banned him and the other party, cause I thought it was "Crass" and it just led to more people attacking and arguing.

I thought your chart was very cute Kelly. Yes, some of us are extremely technologically challenged. And to be fair, some of the animosity over the banning issue was simply people not following instructions. I guess the HA experience teaches us all a lesson on tolerance.

[seanchai]

Just had an email from HA's owner.
The servers are getting upgraded and it's co-incidence that it happenned at this time.

It should be up soon.

[str8mlover4ts]

seanchai, nice site here.

[Nikki]

It should be up soon.

good stuff ;)

[Ecstatic]

Hey, but we got you to post here in the meantime, Nikki! Hope you stay around when HA comes back....

[Nikki]

Hey, but we got you to post here in the meantime, Nikki! Hope you stay around when HA comes back....

I will!

I am already registered here, and that is always the worse part of a board hehe ;)

[AllanahStarrNYC]

Hi Everyone.

From what I read on these posts, most of you have the wrong information, gossip, and are making wild assumptions. I can pretty much assume where all this gossip is coming from but I can tell you none of it is true.

NYCe has been a friend of mine for over 5 years. We have a friendship that extends way beyond HA and I see him regularly at my events every week.

Last night- we had a long discussion face to face on what happened, the parties involved, etc.

I will say right now- that it had NOTHING to do with Seanchai or myself (Kelly where in the heck did you get that from?).

I will keep the details of our convesation private as I told him I would.

But I will say that YES he took the site down after becoming dissapointed by way HA has become and how it has strayed from it's original purpose and vision. It had to do with the behaviour and tactics of members, some moderators, and other things that went beyond the flame wars, arguments, the cliques, and general lack of disrespect for other posters by some.

Again, I will not give details.

But I do know that site is down on purpose and do now know when (if at all) it will re open.

[KellyShore]

Hi Everyone.

From what I read on these posts, most of you have the wrong information, gossip, and are making wild assumptions. I can pretty much assume where all this gossip is coming from but I can tell you none of it is true.

NYCe has been a friend of mine for over 5 years. We have a friendship that extends way beyond HA and I see him regularly at my events every week.

Last night- we had a long discussion face to face on what happened, the parties involved, etc.

I will say right now- that it had NOTHING to do with Seanchai or myself (Kelly where in the heck did you get that from?).

I will keep the details of our convesation private as I told him I would.

But I will say that YES he took the site down after becoming dissapointed by way HA has become and how it has strayed from it's original purpose and vision. It had to do with the behaviour and tactics of members, some moderators, and other things that went beyond the flame wars, arguments, the cliques, and general lack of disrespect for other posters by some.

Again, I will not give details.

But I do know that site is down on purpose and do now know when (if at all) it will re open.
Allanah thats what I was told by Johnny and Nyce.

[WendyWilliams]

I am not posting this as NOT a new HA fight but Im going to say this publically to let everyone know as an example how shit gets started.

I just received a pm on Yahoo from JWBL (HA moderator) asking why I was "mouthing folks" , per Kelly.

I not once "mouthed" a specific person I said HungAngels in general and certain mod's, if you Kelley choose to decide whom I was talking about then so be it.................ANyone can read my post above and see I didnt name names...............................It is childish high school he said, she said, click shit that got HA taken down.

I dont participate in your little userplane chat room, I am not part of the lets worship each other group SO LEAVE ME OUT OF IT, simple.


Sweetie you dont have to try so hard to be noticed, or needed, or participate in gossip to feel part of something, TRUST people will notice and talk about you no matter what.

Please dont take conversations from this board and turn them into anything but what it was intended and that was a statement that HA had become clickish and with daily arguments.

Wendy

[KellyShore]

I am not posting this as NOT a new HA fight but Im going to say this publically to let everyone know as an example how shit gets started.

I just received a pm on Yahoo from JWBL (HA moderator) asking why I was "mouthing folks" , per Kelly.

I not once "mouthed" a specific person I said HungAngels in general and certain mod's, if you Kelley choose to decide whom I was talking about then so be it.................ANyone can read my post above and see I didnt name names...............................It is childish high school he said, she said, click shit that got HA taken down.

I dont participate in your little userplane chat room, I am not part of the lets worship each other group SO LEAVE ME OUT OF IT, simple.


Sweetie you dont have to try so hard to be noticed, or needed, or participate in gossip to feel part of something, TRUST people will notice and talk about you no matter what.

Please dont take conversations from this board and turn them into anything but what it was intended and that was a statement that HA had become clickish and with daily arguments.

Wendy
I just showed them what you had to say PER YOU. And how you were offended that the user was banned. I also have been unbanning people all day, cause some of the girls are trigger happy. I was given reasons why we shouldn't ban people so fast.

[WendyWilliams]

Messy Messy Messy,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[Nikki]

what about the paid add spots?

[rvince]

what about the paid add spots?

They were selling spots? I thought they only showed adverts as affiliates?

[Nikki]

They were selling spots?

no I have no clue about this... it is a question, lol

[AllanahStarrNYC]

Allanah thats what I was told by Johnny and Nyce.

Dear I seriously doubt that NYCe told you I was the cause-So I assume it that was another person. The only time I have ever complained to him (NYCe) was when someone deleted my own posts, and I went to him to verify who did it and if I had a right to post them again. Nyce said YES and I did -and told that person not to delete my post. And I confronted that person visa AIM and text message as well privately.

I am an opiniated, independant woman and I tell it like it is. I don't regret anything I post, say, or do.

As far the complaining to the 'wrong' person, the only person I ever complained to was the the owner.

I am not interested in HA gossip trees, calling people three way to gossip abput HA, none of that.I love HA, but HA is not my life. I have a very busy life outside of HA and dont spend 23 hours of the day on it and 6 hours in the chat room every night. I vowed never to go in that room again after all the shady stuff going on there and I have never lurked or gone on since. My social circle does not revolve online or at the expense of fighting or putting down others. Those that I dislike- know it quite well and those that I love know why and the reasons as well.

I would love to see it back but agree that MANY changes have to happen.

[Ecstatic]

Allanah, thanks for the clarification and balance. And welcome back to TgirlTalk.

[KellyShore]

Dear I seriously doubt that NYCe told you I was the cause-So I assume it that was another person. The only time I have ever complained to him (NYCe) was when someone deleted my own posts, and I went to him to verify who did it and if I had a right to post them again. Nyce said YES and I did -and told that person not to delete my post. And I confronted that person visa AIM and text message as well privately.

I am an opiniated, independant woman and I tell it like it is. I don't regret anything I post, say, or do.

As far the complaining to the 'wrong' person, the only person I ever complained to was the the owner.

I am not interested in HA gossip trees, calling people three way to gossip abput HA, none of that.I love HA, but HA is not my life. I have a very busy life outside of HA and dont spend 23 hours of the day on it and 6 hours in the chat room every night. I vowed never to go in that room again after all the shady stuff going on there and I have never lurked or gone on since. My social circle does not revolve online or at the expense of fighting or putting down others. Those that I dislike- know it quite well and those that I love know why and the reasons as well.

I would love to see it back but agree that MANY changes have to happen. I wasn't personally attacking you, I was just reporting what they told me in the userplane chatroom. And got tired of people messaging me on yahoo and my yahoo group and other places asking me what happened. You are more than welcome to come to the chatroom as is Wendy or any other female. I am sure you are a busy woman, I don't doubt that with all the success you have had. However I better not say that since I have been called an asskisser by certain people. And I mean that respectfully not asskissing. Noone can deny what you have accomplished or Wendy or Vicki etc

[AllanahStarrNYC]

Allanah, thanks for the clarification and balance. And welcome back to TgirlTalk.

Thank you dearest.

Nice to be back.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

I wasn't personally attacking you, I was just reporting what they told me in the userplane chatroom. And got tired of people messaging me on yahoo and my yahoo group and other places asking me what happened.

I never said you were attacking me darling- I was just clearing up what you said and stating my view points. They were not intended to attack anyone- just state my opinion and fact about an oocurance.

[SuperShaft]

Kelly, I'd just like to let everyone know that you're the most two faced person on the forum. I've seen you post positive comments towards Allanah and then bitch about her in the chatroom straight after doing so, and this has happened on more than one occassion. I'm generally an easy going guy that tolerates alot of things but you really are a disgusting person. You crack racist jokes, talk down on black men as if you've more right to be there than them. This happens almost daily and you surpass the impact it has on people and suck up the attention like the cheap whore you are.

Speaking of the chatroom, what sort of faggot name's a chatroom "Fight Club" and then puts a group of (mostly) unstable trannies in charge? Oh yeah, JWBL! That was one of the biggest brown nose stunts of the year. Paranoia motivated him to move from Gabbly (a perfectly good place) to search for a chatroom that can be run by mods. All this stemmed from whenever "the gossip troop" were in the chatroom putting others down behind their backs, like the true bitches they are. Then they were exposed and couldn't handle not being able to gossip and whine about people so they moved immediately after to userplane. The biggest culprits of bans from my experience on userplane are Kira, Kelly and Mimi. They ruin what should be a fun place to get to know people better in real time.

If HA does get up and running again, I sure as fuck hope the mods grow a set of swingers and start modding the place like men (even though that's out of character for one in particular)

[Remy]

You crack racist jokes, talk down on black men as if you've more right to be there than them.

Can we get a Screen shot of this from the chat?

[SuperShaft]

I don't know how to do screen shots and even if I did they would be worthless, because she doesn't seem to show any remorse. She tells these "jokes" while she's aware there are black members in the chatroom! She is unbelievably ignorant. Then she tries to cover it up by saying "I have a black friend". I'm sure she'll be on here flapping soon trying to cover up her repulsive personality with yet more lies. In her own head she thinks she's being witty but to anyone outside her redneck circle, I'm sure they find her behaviour offensive.

[seanchai]

I don't know how to do screen shots and even if I did they would be worthless, because she doesn't seem to show any remorse. She tells these "jokes" while she's aware there are black members in the chatroom! She is unbelievably ignorant. Then she tries to cover it up by saying "I have a black friend". I'm sure she'll be on here flapping soon trying to cover up her repulsive personality with yet more lies. In her own head she thinks she's being witty but to anyone outside her redneck circle, I'm sure they find her behaviour offensive.

Ok you've had your say.
Thanks for the input and welcome to Tgirltalk.com but time to move onto a different and more positive topic.
We don't need to continue the drama over here.
Thanks
seanchai

[Nicole Dupree]

I edited it - as it was untrue. slanderous and as previously stated, reposted specifially to cause a problem/start a fight. I can really do without getting lawyers involved as they usually cost more than they're worth, so a simple edit saves a lot of time, money and energy.Seanchai, you edited out what I observed people saying in the thread, not what I claimed had actually happened. I don't know what the details are of that particular situation, and I honestly don't care.

And I can't help it if there's a lack of communication between mods about who was previously banned and is returning under a new name. But asking for people to be re-banned, who didn't belong there in the first place, is hardly a "witch hunt". I doubt that you would be welcoming Monica Fox to this forum because she had started using a new name to conceal her identity. It's ironic that you're accusing me of wanting to start a fight, when it was you that entered the petition thread pointing fingers and saying who you wanted banned. Because before you joined that thread, it was essentially a list that was being co-signed.

And for the record, I have banned NO ONE from the Userplane chat.

[bxboy1984]

I don't know how to do screen shots and even if I did they would be worthless, because she doesn't seem to show any remorse. She tells these "jokes" while she's aware there are black members in the chatroom! She is unbelievably ignorant. Then she tries to cover it up by saying "I have a black friend". I'm sure she'll be on here flapping soon trying to cover up her repulsive personality with yet more lies. In her own head she thinks she's being witty but to anyone outside her redneck circle, I'm sure they find her behaviour offensive.

ok time for clarification. (i'm breaking first rule of fight club, but for a good reason)
Kelly Shore isnt racist. As the person who most of those comments are made to, i would know. If you had rad up on the incident at all, instead of coming inside the chat once and making assumptions, youd know that. The whole "kelly says racist shit" dates back month when I, ME, MUAH, called her a racist for snubin the black guy, ME, from a contest she held. She knew i was jokin and we BOTH ran with the joke ON THE FORUM. Other members pmed me and found out the real deal, instead of posting stupid shit like what youre spewing. Once the gabby chat, the meebo chat, and now the userplane chat started, we took it there to keep people like you from making dumb shit up and smearing either of our reps. If you took time to listen to everyone instead of tryin to get a free show to get your rocks off, youd prolly have heard both mine as well as other black members very strong rebutals towards her, and we all laugh that shit off.
Secondly, the ladies are in charge for a few reasons. one, it givs them a reason to come in. Without the girls, it would be a major sausagefest and we'd all be talking about sports. Its obvious from the post ive seen on this page that you cant take a joke, even if its not about you. and the chat room isnt for you, and youre the one who is unstable. A stable person is able to calmly assess the situation rationally, which you havent. Id rather been in a room with a room filled with women who have different personalities, different looks, and different styles and let them be in control of who stays and goes than a room filled with horny guys talking about whos dick they want to suck, or whats the biggest dick theyve had up their ass, and have the girls be forced to listen to that shit. THERES A REASON WHY WE"RE ALL HERE IN FORUMS!! THE LADIES!!! Do i agree with everything Kelly shore, Kira harden or jen justice, or anyone says? No, thats impossible, but if they express their opinion as an adult, i have to respect that. A much as I'd love to have "THE PERFECT GIRL" who was essentially a robot following my every order, that shit would get old after awhile. Them being able to express their opinions is the reason boards like this one exist. I willing to bet that if all the girls who posted on this board left, built up a new forum, every single one of us, including myself, would find our way over there, even if that meant theyd be in control 100%.
Lastly, the off site chat rooms were the GIRLS IDEA. They wanted a place to talk with in a more speedy fashion than on a board. They moved from gabby for two major reasons. 1) it was unstable. somedays it would be up and others it would be down for hours. it was a badly kept site and far from perfect. and 2) it was unmoderated. As many may have seen Ms. plastique come in here and be banned within 2 hours, a forum needs to be moderated as does a chat room. If not, complete anarchy ensue were it turns into a mudslinging fight that never ends. So Harajuku, not JWBL, went and found Userplane. It was her idea. No chat is perfect, but userplane is great as it allows moderation. I'm sure people loved gabby because the could come in, ANONMOUSLY i may add, lurk, and then run back to whoever, or say something under the cover of a mask, and walk away feeling like peaches. Userplane allows people to express those same opinions, but if you come in just to say dumb shit, for a free show or to read and hear whos trashing who, its not going to happen. You need to introduce yourself. YOU need to have a name, and you need to participate. ANY coward can come into a room and say what he wants if he knows noone will be able to stop him, but it takes a REAL man or woman to stand on a soapbox in the middle of a crowded rome and say something that he or she knows will start something. Noone was kissin anyones ass, by giving the girls power over something THEY WANTED TO DO. thats like you coming up with an invention, doing all the work,showing it to me, and i take it and make all the money and only give you a free ride in my new car everyday.
So in conclusion, get your stories straight, do your homework, and if you have anything to say after that you know were the party is.

Bxboy1984 aka Blckhaze

[BeardedOne]

so all those cock bandits from Hungangels will be migrating here on tgirltalk then...

And I wear that badge proudly, gurl! <Puffing out chest>

To the last post: Howdy Haze, was nice chatting with you the other nite, is the UP chat still up? Anyone got a link?

BTW, dude, discover paragraphs. ;) My eyes hurt (But you made rock-solid good points).

[Quinn]

ok time for clarification. (i'm breaking first rule of fight club, but for a good reason)
Kelly Shore isnt racist. As the person who most of those comments are made to, i would know. If you had rad up on the incident at all, instead of coming inside the chat once and making assumptions, youd know that. The whole "kelly says racist shit" dates back month when I, ME, MUAH, called her a racist for snubin the black guy, ME, from a contest she held. She knew i was jokin and we BOTH ran with the joke ON THE FORUM. Other members pmed me and found out the real deal, instead of posting stupid shit like what youre spewing. Once the gabby chat, the meebo chat, and now the userplane chat started, we took it there to keep people like you from making dumb shit up and smearing either of our reps. If you took time to listen to everyone instead of tryin to get a free show to get your rocks off, youd prolly have heard both mine as well as other black members very strong rebutals towards her, and we all laugh that shit off.

Bxboy1984 aka Blckhaze

As someone who has spent some time in the chat rooms – and seen the joking you're referring to – I'm glad you typed this, haze. When I saw the initial, functionally anonymous post claiming that Kelly was racist, I wanted to step in to reply to it, but I've been too busy today to type the lengthy sort of answer an appropriate response would require. My point: anyone who's been there can easily discern that what has has been said was good-natured ribbing among friendly posters, not racism.

-Quinn

[SuperShaft]

Thanks for the welcome Seanchai.

And I appreciate your low tolerance for drama, you saved me reading 30 minutes worth of Blackhaze making excuses for the scum and verbally blowing JWBL. That was more than likely the gist of the post.

[flabbybody]

thx haze.
you've clarified a few misconceptions that have been swirling around.

[SuperShaft]

As someone who has spent some time in the chat rooms – and seen the joking you're referring to – I'm glad you typed this, haze. When I saw the initial, functionally anonymous post claiming that Kelly was racist, I wanted to step in to reply to it, but I've been too busy today to type the lengthy sort of answer an appropriate response would require. My point: anyone who's been there can easily discern that what has has been said was good-natured ribbing among friendly posters, not racism.

-Quinn

I've been there and experienced the racism first hand. Who are you to tell me that what I've seen was not racist? Blackhaze was one of the guys complaining about it at one stage but now he's too big of a pussy to stick to his beliefs. She's even admitted on Vicki's forum that she tells racist jokes so don't come on here and act a smug asshole with me. If I heard her once or twice being racist, I'd let it pass, but it's on a daily basis. Contrary to what you believe Quinn, you're not always right.

[Nicole Dupree]

I've been there and experienced the racism first hand. Who are you to tell me that what I've seen was not racist? Blackhaze was one of the guys complaining about it at one stage but now he's too big of a pussy to stick to his beliefs. She's even admitted on Vicki's forum that she tells racist jokes so don't come on here and act a smug asshole with me. If I heard her once or twice being racist, I'd let it pass, but it's on a daily basis. Contrary to what you believe Quinn, you're not always right.It seems that there are inside jokes and friendships developing which you're not in there enough to observe or understand. You also seem to be oblivious to the fact that my ongoing feud with JWBL was resolved in there, and so was the one between Mimi and Jenn.

[bxboy1984]

to B1
i tried. im new to this forum. I figured if i pressed enter after my three points itd be enough guess not.
to quinn and B1
THANK YOU for doing what someone should when entering a room, not just in rl, but on the net too. Get a name , introduce yourself, and then you have the PRIVILEGE express your opinions politely.

[WendyWilliams]

LOL Privilige ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,now thats a stretch of the word.

BLckhaze Ive always enjoyed your posts but this new posterchild/spokesperson for the userplane room is awkward to say the least.

Wendy

[bxboy1984]

I've been there and experienced the racism first hand. Who are you to tell me that what I've seen was not racist? Blackhaze was one of the guys complaining about it at one stage but now he's too big of a pussy to stick to his beliefs. She's even admitted on Vicki's forum that she tells racist jokes so don't come on here and act a smug asshole with me. If I heard her once or twice being racist, I'd let it pass, but it's on a daily basis. Contrary to what you believe Quinn, you're not always right.


LOL. dude your noone to kelly. At least she know my REAL NAME, and WHAT MY FACE LOOKS LIKE. Yes i get heated with kelly, but not because of who says it, its whats being said. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY TIMES IVE CALLED HER A FUCKING HONKY ANDF A SNOW FLAKE AND A SLEW OF OTHER RACIST TAUNTS!?!?! If we took what either of us 100% seriously, we'd boh be miserable people.
As Nicole, and many of the other members who have been brave to bring themselves to the room on several occasions, there have been some major friendships forged through these rooms. I know if i met the people with whom ive had in depth convos with on the chat board tomorrow, we'd have the same convos over beers and "KFC" and laugh even harder. The fact that you and FEW other either cant take a joke or distinguish falsehoods from facts means you arent ready for the chat, and thats fine, but dont be a hate monger and discourage others who may be ready for the brutal and honest truth.

[Nicole Dupree]

DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY TIMES IVE CALLED HER A FUCKING HONKY ANDF A SNOW FLAKE AND A SLEW OF OTHER RACIST TAUNTS!?!?!
Yeah, Haze. Don't forget "cracker" and "bony-assed bitch". ;)

[bxboy1984]

LOL Privilige ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,now thats a stretch of the word.

BLckhaze Ive always enjoyed your posts but this new posterchild/spokesperson for the userplane room is awkward to say the least.

Wendy
Ms. Williams
Firstly if its a stretch then tell me what it is.

Secondly, I am no poster boy. Im just defending the people who respect and agree with my point of view as you would for your friends (at least they hope you would). Ive spoken my peace on HA, in the room, and now here, so if wanna come see things first hand, feel free to join in.

[whatsupwithat]

this is all very strange.

[bxboy1984]

this is all very strange.

Well Whitey, be prepped for a mind trip no drug can bring!!! LOL

if you want the link ask kelly or nicole. i cant post the link below 10 post and i have a feeling i wont make it that high lol.
here are the four rules i live by

Rule #1- What goes on in fight club, stay in fight club (unless necessary to defend its members)
Rule #2- if you wanna be anon, DONT SAY NOTHING OR LOOK FOR A FREE SHOW
Rule #3- dont be an asshole to someone you just saw speak for 30 seconds
Rule #4- HAVE FUN!!! ITS A DAMN CHAT ROOM!!! YOULL PROBABLY NEVER MEET ANYONE OF US SO TAKE SHIT LIKE IT SHOULD BE< NOT SO DAMN SERIOUS!!!

[SuperShaft]

LOL. dude your noone to kelly. At least she know my REAL NAME, and WHAT MY FACE LOOKS LIKE. Yes i get heated with kelly, but not because of who says it, its whats being said. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY TIMES IVE CALLED HER A FUCKING HONKY ANDF A SNOW FLAKE AND A SLEW OF OTHER RACIST TAUNTS!?!?! If we took what either of us 100% seriously, we'd boh be miserable people.
As Nicole, and many of the other members who have been brave to bring themselves to the room on several occasions, there have been some major friendships forged through these rooms. I know if i met the people with whom ive had in depth convos with on the chat board tomorrow, we'd have the same convos over beers and "KFC" and laugh even harder. The fact that you and FEW other either cant take a joke or distinguish falsehoods from facts means you arent ready for the chat, and thats fine, but dont be a hate monger and discourage others who may be ready for the brutal and honest truth.

Dude, I don't intend to form any "major friendships" with Kelly or any other racist asshole for that matter. I've heard her say alot of racist stuff that wasn't said in the context of a joke. Just because you're black, doesn't give you the right to be the official spokesperson for all black people. I'm glad you were not offended by the slurs but that doesn't go to say that others don't find them hard to take. The fact that you retaliate and target her with racism makes you just as low as her. And who are you to tell me that I'm not ready for the chat? You've been an admin for a few days and already you can't handle the heat. Fuck off and enjoy your major friendships with the trailer park trannies.

[bxboy1984]

Dude, I don't intend to form any "major friendships" with Kelly or any other racist asshole for that matter. I've heard her say alot of racist stuff that wasn't said in the context of a joke. Just because you're black, doesn't give you the right to be the official spokesperson for all black people. I'm glad you were not offended by the slurs but that doesn't go to say that others don't find them hard to take. The fact that you retaliate and target her with racism makes you just as low as her. And who are you to tell me that I'm not ready for the chat? You've been an admin for a few days and already you can't handle the heat. Fuck off and enjoy your major friendships with the trailer park trannies.


ROFLMAO gotta love trolls.

[whatsupwithat]

Well Whitey, be prepped for a mind trip no drug can bring!!! LOL

if you want the link ask kelly or nicole. i cant post the link below 10 post and i have a feeling i wont make it that high lol.
here are the four rules i live by

Rule #1- What goes on in fight club, stay in fight club (unless necessary to defend its members)
Rule #2- if you wanna be anon, DONT SAY NOTHING OR LOOK FOR A FREE SHOW
Rule #3- dont be an asshole to someone you just saw speak for 30 seconds
Rule #4- HAVE FUN!!! ITS A DAMN CHAT ROOM!!! YOULL PROBABLY NEVER MEET ANYONE OF US SO TAKE SHIT LIKE IT SHOULD BE< NOT SO DAMN SERIOUS!!!

lol. i already have profile there. haven't been in awhile. just finding all this fighting back and forth very strange. there's really no need for it, you know? we're all here, we're all "queer" (no, that doesn't make you gay...lol), so, we better get used to it. ;)

[bxboy1984]

lol. i already have profile there. haven't been in awhile. just finding all this fighting back and forth very strange. there's really no need for it, you know? we're all here, we're all "queer" (no, that doesn't make you gay...lol), so, we better get used to it. ;)

Bring yo self foo. just dun go on cam and get stillied. You will never live it down.

(For those wondering, being stillied is an inside joke)

[TheVoiceOfReason]

ok time for clarification. (i'm breaking first rule of fight club, but for a good reason)
Wake up Fool! As soon as BlackLabel made all the Trannies, mods, it no longer was a fight club. SO CHANGE THE TITLE OF THE CHAT! Half the combatants dont fight anymore because they have an eject button. A real exercise in faggotry. :rolleyes:

Secondly, the ladies are in charge for a few reasons. one, it givs them a reason to come in. Without the girls, it would be a major sausagefest and we'd all be talking about sports.
Its a sausage fest regardless jackass, these are girls with sausages, remember? :retard:

Its obvious from the post ive seen on this page that you cant take a joke, even if its not about you. and the chat room isnt for you, and youre the one who is unstable.
I can take it as well as dish it out. the unstable ones who were made into admins, cant. Which is why they were made into admins in the first place. again, change the fightclub title into 'Faggot Club'.

THERES A REASON WHY WE"RE ALL HERE IN FORUMS!! THE LADIES!!! "Lady" is not the word i would use to describe some of the trailerpark trash i see moderating that room. you faggots set them up so that they can do all the name calling and ejecting. again, not a fight club anymore. i think kira ejects a 100 people a day on average, and they werent all anonymous or out of line. talk about being drunk with power, combined with instability. :roll:

SMDH@ you Fools!

[Nicole Dupree]

Dude, I don't intend to form any "major friendships" with Kelly or any other racist asshole for that matter. I've heard her say alot of racist stuff that wasn't said in the context of a joke. Just because you're black, doesn't give you the right to be the official spokesperson for all black people. I'm glad you were not offended by the slurs but that doesn't go to say that others don't find them hard to take. The fact that you retaliate and target her with racism makes you just as low as her. And who are you to tell me that I'm not ready for the chat? You've been an admin for a few days and already you can't handle the heat. Fuck off and enjoy your major friendships with the trailer park trannies.Just because YOU took offense from what you read into a convo between two people who were kidding around, doesn't mean it was genuinely racism. Who are you to define the parameters of their friendship?

However YOU clearly intend to be offensive by telling people that they're blowing the mods and your "trailer park trannie" comment.

[bxboy1984]

Wake up Fool! As soon as BlackLabel made all the Trannies, mods, it no longer was a fight club. SO CHANGE THE TITLE OF THE CHAT! Half the combatants dont fight anymore because they have an eject button. A real exercise in faggotry. :rolleyes:


Its a sausage fest regardless jackass, these are girls with sausages, remember? :retard:


I can take it as well as dish it out. the unstable ones who were made into admins, cant. Which is why they were made into admins in the first place. again, change the fightclub title into 'Faggot Club'.

"Lady" is not the word i would use to describe some of the trailerpark trash i see moderating that room. you faggots set them up so that they can do all the name calling and ejecting. again, not a fight club anymore. i think kira ejects a 100 people a day on average, and they werent all anonymous or out of line. talk about being drunk with power, combined with instability. :roll:

SMDH@ you Fools!



gotta love trolls

[seanchai]

http://www.tgirltalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3955

All read please!

[KellyShore]

Omg first of all, again the chatroom was made so we can bust one anothers chops and have fun. If you think I am serious when I tell my racist jokes to Black and Johnny and when they respond calling me a white honky and a boney ass white girl is serious! You OBVIOUSLY DON'T have the persona for the chatroom. We joke on mic, I definitely joke on mic and with SARCASM. Black and Johnny know that, it's just an ongoing joke. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

As far as Allanah goes. Saying someone has a nice dress or looks good in the picture isn't KISSING ASS. I don't dislike Allanah in the least bit. If any girl, guy, whatever posts a pic of themselves they OBVIOUSLY WANT COMMENTS ON IT. If I like the pictures I give my thoughts, if I don't like the pictures I give my thoughts. I assume you are talking about Allanah what I said in the chatroom when she posted that Gabbly chat log. She posted pictures from a Carmen Cruz party that Klikkbott took...I told her in the thread that the pictures weren't flattering and thats why they were poking fun in the chatroom. She DID NOT GET MAD! She explained that Klikkbott did it on short notice. Also Allanah is a star she is going to be talked about. It comes with the territory.

So maybe instead of KISSING ASS and acting like you know anything about what Userplane is you should stay out of the chatroom till you have a LIGHTER SENSE OF HUMOR.


The girls in the chatroom also read one another to out of fun. Between Heavenlysin, Jen Justice, Mimi, and Me...we've called each other cds on the mic men on the mic, white bread bitches, etc. It's to be funny for the people that are listening that are trying to CURE their boredom. It's a freaking chatroom that you take WAY to serious.


GET OVER IT!

And I also questioned Johnny when he said it was Allanah's doing I was like WHY would Allanah care about Hung Angels and what goes on? I mean I know she's been a member for a long time and a moderator and she uses it for her Party Advertisements. However I never thought she'd take what people say so serious.

The girls in the chatroom that you call a bitch like Jen J and Mimi are actually fun girls and mean a lot of stuff as a JOKE...it's a place to crack jokes, have fun, and not be JUDGED.

[SuperShaft]

Just because YOU took offense from what you read into a convo between two people who were kidding around, doesn't mean it was genuinely racism. Who are you to define the parameters of their friendship?

However YOU clearly intend to be offensive by telling people that they're blowing the mods and your "trailer park trannie" comment.

Nicole, I'm respecting Seachai's wishes in keeping it civil here so I'm going to be as nice as I possibly can to a grade A scumbag like yourself. I know Kelly and Blackhaze are friends, when did I ever argue they were not? That doesn't mean that they have the right to spit out racist jokes to each other. I've heard Blackhaze joke about her being a "honkey" or whatever but Kelly takes it too far by not always saying the things in the context of a joke. My comment about the "trailer park trannies" was refering to a small number of girls that try to convince themselves that they have a purpose on HA aswell as userplane. Try not to quote me again because I could do without interaction with a tranny with the brain capacity of an ape.

[bxboy1984]

Omg first of all, again the chatroom was made so we can bust one anothers chops and have fun. If you think I am serious when I tell my racist jokes to Black and Johnny and when they respond calling me a white honky and a boney ass white girl is serious! You OBVIOUSLY DON'T have the persona for the chatroom. We joke on mic, I definitely joke on mic and with SARCASM. Black and Johnny know that, it's just an ongoing joke. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

As far as Allanah goes. Saying someone has a nice dress or looks good in the picture isn't KISSING ASS. I don't dislike Allanah in the least bit. If any girl, guy, whatever posts a pic of themselves they OBVIOUSLY WANT COMMENTS ON IT. If I like the pictures I give my thoughts, if I don't like the pictures I give my thoughts. I assume you are talking about Allanah what I said in the chatroom when she posted that Gabbly chat log. She posted pictures from a Carmen Cruz party that Klikkbott took...I told her in the thread that the pictures weren't flattering and thats why they were poking fun in the chatroom. She DID NOT GET MAD! She explained that Klikkbott did it on short notice. Also Allanah is a star she is going to be talked about. It comes with the territory.

So maybe instead of KISSING ASS and acting like you know anything about what Userplane is you should stay out of the chatroom till you have a LIGHTER SENSE OF HUMOR.


The girls in the chatroom also read one another to out of fun. Between Heavenlysin, Jen Justice, Mimi, and Me...we've called each other cds on the mic men on the mic, white bread bitches, etc. It's to be funny for the people that are listening that are trying to CURE their boredom. It's a freaking chatroom that you take WAY to serious.


GET OVER IT!

And I also questioned Johnny when he said it was Allanah's doing I was like WHY would Allanah care about Hung Angels and what goes on? I mean I know she's been a member for a long time and a moderator and she uses it for her Party Advertisements. However I never thought she'd take what people say so serious.

The girls in the chatroom that you call a bitch like Jen J and Mimi are actually fun girls and mean a lot of stuff as a JOKE...it's a place to crack jokes, have fun, and not be JUDGED.


Well said snow white

[BeardedOne]

Oy!

Things move along.

Thanx, Seanchai, for your link to saner minds (Not that there's anything wrong with that).

and get stillied.

Aw, jeez, what'd the boy do now? :lol:

He still gets a free beer from me if he can man up to a meeting.

[SuperShaft]

Kelly there's not much of your post that is worth responding to. You seem to have different views between forums and userplane. I've heard you talking about people first hand, but to be quite honest I don't really give a shit. Just don't try and question other people's personalities. (i.e Allanah/Wendy and all the other people you unstable trannies are jealous of) They've got real fame, all you Nicole, tsntx, Kira and Mimi have got is a bunch of cock hungry guys worshipping you when we all know they'd fuck Jack Nicholson with a wig. Before you run your mouth, I'm not kissing any ass, just telling what's blatantly obvious for all to see.

[KellyShore]

Kelly there's not much of your post that is worth responding to. You seem to have different views between forums and userplane. I've heard you talking about people first hand, but to be quite honest I don't really give a shit. Just don't try and question other people's personalities. (i.e Allanah/Wendy and all the other people you unstable trannies are jealous of) They've got real fame, all you Nicole, tsntx, Kira and Mimi have got is a bunch of cock hungry guys worshipping you when we all know they'd fuck Jack Nicholson with a wig. Before you run your mouth, I'm not kissing any ass, just telling what's blatantly obvious for all to see.
hahahahhahhahahahaahhahahahah Whatever phoney balogney. They do porn??? Good for them. How can you say that when Mimi, Jen, and Heavenly don't do porn?????????????????????????????????????? Omg thats the lifestyle Allanah and Wendy CHOSE to lead and NEITHER of them make PARDONS FOR IT. Stop ass kissing. And no offense to Allanah or Wendy, but I am sure if Heavenly Sin did porn she'd be on Vanity's level...... She's beautiful, Sounds like a woman, Looks like a woman, ETC JUST LIKE VANITY! And FYI half the guys that are in the chatroom not under ANONYMOUS are guys we all talk to on a regular basis and don't kiss our ass we have actual conversations and make jokes. GOOD LORD YOU ARE THE ONlY ONE SOUNDING JEALOUS AND JADED..if I didn't know better I'd say you were someone under a phoney name to speak their mind with out being pinned to your celebrity. And you can take that how you want it, but I know for a fact a moderator on HungAngels would do that. I thought it was silly but the moderator did GOOD FOR THEM and good for you now.

[Osiris]

Kelly there's not much of your post that is worth responding to. You seem to have different views between forums and userplane. I've heard you talking about people first hand, but to be quite honest I don't really give a shit. Just don't try and question other people's personalities. (i.e Allanah/Wendy and all the other people you unstable trannies are jealous of) They've got real fame, all you Nicole, tsntx, Kira and Mimi have got is a bunch of cock hungry guys worshipping you when we all know they'd fuck Jack Nicholson with a wig. Before you run your mouth, I'm not kissing any ass, just telling what's blatantly obvious for all to see.

Just exactly how far up your ass is your head?

[seanchai]

(Mimi, Jen, Nicole, Kira ... have all done adult work actually)

[KellyShore]

Just exactly how far up your ass is your head?
haha babe

[TheVoiceOfReason]

Well said snow white
way to go Bozo, keep scoring them brownie points. now you can go back to that tg dominated faggot club, and get your passive ass cyber-reemed. :-D

[KellyShore]

way to go Bozo, keep scoring them brownie points. now you can go back to that tg dominated faggot club, and get your passive ass cyber-reemed. :-D
awe is someone upset cause they were banned by a girl. BOO FUCKING HOO.

[TheVoiceOfReason]

awe is someone upset cause they were banned by a girl. BOO FUCKING HOO.
I wasnt talking to you trash.

[KellyShore]

(Mimi, Jen, Nicole, Kira ... have all done adult work actually)
Ya but Mimi and Jen did it for extra money not as a career. Which Allanah and Wendy do it for a career. So he can't really compare the two. Wendy owns her own production company she has made her fame in porn from owning her own production company. Great for her.

Allanah is well known has celebrity outside of porn. I consider that celebrity. Like Jenna Jameson she is known out of porn. As well as Gia Darling. That to me is celebrity.

No offense to Miss Williams. she is a celebrity in the porn world.

[KellyShore]

I wasnt talking to you trash.
It's a public forum my dear. TRASH rofl.

[SuperShaft]

hahahahhahhahahahaahhahahahah Whatever phoney balogney. They do porn??? Good for them. How can you say that when Mimi, Jen, and Heavenly don't do porn?????????????????????????????????????? Omg thats the lifestyle Allanah and Wendy CHOSE to lead and NEITHER of them make PARDONS FOR IT. Stop ass kissing. And no offense to Allanah or Wendy, but I am sure if Heavenly Sin did porn she'd be on Vanity's level...... She's beautiful, Sounds like a woman, Looks like a woman, ETC JUST LIKE VANITY! And FYI half the guys that are in the chatroom not under ANONYMOUS are guys we all talk to on a regular basis and don't kiss our ass we have actual conversations and make jokes. GOOD LORD YOU ARE THE ONlY ONE SOUNDING JEALOUS AND JADED..if I didn't know better I'd say you were someone under a phoney name to speak their mind with out being pinned to your celebrity. And you can take that how you want it, but I know for a fact a moderator on HungAngels would do that. I thought it was silly but the moderator did GOOD FOR THEM and good for you now.

"hahahahhahhahahahaahhahahahah Whatever" Yeah it sounds like you don't care at all :rolleyes:

Think about it for a sec, if you don't know who I am why would I be a secret Allanah or Wendy fan? I can tell you right now I don't give a fuck what either of them thinks of me, but I have respect for them and why shouldn't I? There you go again giving the impression that Allanah and Wendy don't look or sound like real women. I'll give your you props on your voice, it sounds pretty good, but what man is going to want to listen to anything that comes out of it when you hit 40? The answer is....very few. As for the your looks, you're a good looking girl, but nothing special.

People like you have let the worshippers give you a false sense of reality and now you think you're in the big time. All you are is a tranny from HA that posts like someone with ADHD. I'm telling the truth but it will go over your head and you'll disgard it as hating.

[Osiris]

I wasnt talking to you trash.

Allanah? You think you're so sly don't you. I can smell your shit and it stinks

[bxboy1984]

way to go Bozo, keep scoring them brownie points. now you can go back to that tg dominated faggot club, and get your passive ass cyber-reemed. :-D

and you can stay here and shine seanchai balls. Enjoy

[Osiris]

"hahahahhahhahahahaahhahahahah Whatever" Yeah it sounds like you don't care at all :rolleyes:

Think about it for a sec, if you don't know who I am why would I be a secret Allanah or Wendy fan? I can tell you right now I don't give a fuck what either of them thinks of me, but I have respect for them and why shouldn't I? There you go again giving the impression that Allanah and Wendy don't look or sound like real women. I'll give your you props on your voice, it sounds pretty good, but what man is going to want to listen to anything that comes out of it when you hit 40? The answer is....very few. As for the your looks, you're a good looking girl, but nothing special.

People like you have let the worshippers give you a false sense of reality and now you think you're in the big time. All you are is a tranny from HA that posts like someone with ADHD. I'm telling the truth but it will go over your head and you'll disgard it as hating.
You actually think Wendy looks and sounds like a women???? Spent a little too much time behind bars huh?

[SuperShaft]

(Mimi, Jen, Nicole, Kira ... have all done adult work actually)

I know they have done a couple of photoshoots, I was talking about pornstars not pornflops.

[bxboy1984]

cmon in. lets see how you guys REALLY feel.

[SuperShaft]

You actually think Wendy looks and sounds like a women???? Spent a little too much time behind bars huh?

Each to their own, most of the "girls" that slate people are not exactly "take home to your family" material are they?

[TheVoiceOfReason]

Allanah? You think you're so sly don't you. I can smell your shit and it stinks
then you must have a poor sense of smell. Blacklabel?

[Nicole Dupree]

Nicole, I'm respecting Seachai's wishes in keeping it civil here so I'm going to be as nice as I possibly can to a grade A scumbag like yourself. I know Kelly and Blackhaze are friends, when did I ever argue they were not? That doesn't mean that they have the right to spit out racist jokes to each other. I've heard Blackhaze joke about her being a "honkey" or whatever but Kelly takes it too far by not always saying the things in the context of a joke. My comment about the "trailer park trannies" was refering to a small number of girls that try to convince themselves that they have a purpose on HA aswell as userplane. Try not to quote me again because I could do without interaction with a tranny with the brain capacity of an ape."Grade A scumbag"? Ok. Since you're just some putz with a big mouth and the reasoning capacity of a chimp, I'll let you relax in the safety of your own delusions.

But everyone here can plainly see that you are by far the most offensive person on this thread.

[seanchai]

Says you need a username but doesn't show how/where to get?

[TheVoiceOfReason]

and you can stay here and shine seanchai balls. Enjoy
I'm only here temporarily to set the record straight, as the voice of reason. you on the other hand, are committed to your passive faggot club.

[SuperShaft]

Allanah? You think you're so sly don't you. I can smell your shit and it stinks

You're another paranoid wreck! Everyone that comes into the chatroom is accused of being Allanah at some stage, get a grip.

[Osiris]

Says you need a username but doesn't show how/where to get?
I think you have to click login, and then you can make one

[Osiris]

You're another paranoid wreck! Everyone that comes into the chatroom is accused of being Allanah at some stage, get a grip.

And you're a load that should've been swallowed.

[WendyWilliams]

AND HERE WE GOOOOOOOOOOOOO TYPICAL HA crap brought to this board, I knew it would be moments before this would happen.


Osiris and we all know who you are, please attempt too try and degrade me with something more original. Yes I know my voice is deep, Im tall, my cock isnt 8 inches, Im thicker, Im not Vaniity or Gia Darling, blah blah blah blah.............Ive heard this shit since 2003 and yes I am going NOWHERE, yet my dvd's still to be one of the highest selling series in the market, I am in the top 20 of the most shot transsexuals, and the list goes on.

And Kelley sweetie please explain to me why you are trying to compare Allanah and I to anyone else? We chose our careers just like that your friend chooses to perform in Drag Bars and go to school,,,,,,,,,no need for comparison because in the long run she doesnt do porn so no need to "assume" and Ive already graduatd college, made top 12 at numerous National Contest oh yea AND I do porn...........Lets not pick and choose arguments.

Wendy

[SuperShaft]

And you're a load that should've been swallowed.

That was something loosenoose said a few times, are you a little 15yo bitch that got banned from HA or is it just a coincidence that you act like him?

[KellyShore]

AND HERE WE GOOOOOOOOOOOOO TYPICAL HA crap brought to this board, I knew it would be moments before this would happen.


Osiris and we all know who you are, please attempt too try and degrade me with something more original. Yes I know my voice is deep, Im tall, my cock isnt 8 inches, Im thicker, Im not Vaniity or Gia Darling, blah blah blah blah.............Ive heard this shit since 2003 and yes I am going NOWHERE, yet my dvd's still to be one of the highest selling series in the market, I am in the top 20 of the most shot transsexuals, and the list goes on.

And Kelley sweetie please explain to me why you are trying to compare Allanah and I to anyone else? We chose our careers just like that your friend chooses to perform in Drag Bars and go to school,,,,,,,,,no need for comparison because in the long run she doesnt do porn so no need to "assume" and Ive already graduatd college, made top 12 at numerous National Contest oh yea AND I do porn...........Lets not pick and choose arguments.

Wendy
I don't know Wendy ask your friend he was comparing us girls to you and Allanah, so I was just telling him his comparison is ridiculous and doesn't hold true. I'm glad you agree.

[bxboy1984]

Im waiting for an answer to my question ms williams, if you feel so inclined to answer kelly, than you can answer mine.

Srry Seanchai. For those who want the real deal. youhave to create a name on userplane.com and then you can clcik the link below to

[Tomfurbs]

Anyone got a decent url for userplane. The one blackhaze posted was crap. I need to go in and prove my manhood.


Edit: ahh it has been done.

Editx2: still doesn't work...and I have a username already!!!

[SuperShaft]

I don't know Wendy ask your friend he was comparing us girls to you and Allanah, so I was just telling him his comparison is ridiculous and doesn't hold true. I'm glad you agree.

I'm not Wendy or Allanah's friend. I was comparing the girls that have made an impact in the industry to a few vigilate trannies that think they're good looking because they take half their face off in photoshop.

[TheVoiceOfReason]

The faggot club nazi's are ejecting everyone again :roll:

[bxboy1984]

Anyone got a decent url for userplane. The one blackhaze posted was crap. I need to go in and prove my manhood.


Edit: ahh it has been done.

Editx2: still doesn't work...and I have a username already!!!

1) you need to prove nothing other than you have a personality to offer.
2) Im trying. Thats the link i use all the time. The only thing i can say to to is log in from the userplane site b4 clickin the link. other than that im not sure what you can do

[seanchai]

Can't find the link to create a name?

[Nicole Dupree]

It's so obvious that these confrontational losers are the same people who were banned from HA, and came back with new user names.

[bxboy1984]

spanks all around tits-n-tats

[SuperShaft]

The faggot club nazi's are ejecting everyone again :roll:

They can dish it out but when things get heated they don't hesitate to throw people out.

It's strictly unstable trannies and worshippers only. :prayer:

[KellyShore]

I'm not Wendy or Allanah's friend. I was comparing the girls that have made an impact in the industry to a few vigilate trannies that think they're good looking because they take half their face off in photoshop.
Is that what we do cause I'm pretty sure each of us have shown ourselves on webcam and look like our pics? I even recreated the belt picture on cam. Cause I got tired of people saying I use photoshop.

[KellyShore]

then you must have a poor sense of smell. Blacklabel?
haha if you think thats Johnny you are on crack. Thats anubis from HA.

[SuperShaft]

It's so obvious that these confrontational losers are the same people who were banned from HA, and came back with new user names.

So guess who we are then.

First we were Allanah's heroes, then Allanah, now banned members. Next we'll be NYCe :D

I'm a long time member but I'd be stupid to tell you my HA name, then you'd be all over me like you are with other guys there.

[SuperShaft]

Is that what we do cause I'm pretty sure each of us have shown ourselves on webcam and look like our pics? I even recreated the belt picture on cam. Cause I got tired of people saying I use photoshop.

....anyway, regardless of looks you are leagues below Allanah and Wendy. That's fact, Smelly Whore.

[KellyShore]

....anyway, regardless of looks you are leagues below Allanah and Wendy. That's fact, Smelly Whore.
omg hahahahahahahhahahahhaahahahahahhahahahahahaha

[BeardedOne]

You're another paranoid wreck! Everyone that comes into the chatroom is accused of being Allanah at some stage, get a grip.

I'M SPARTICUS!

[Quinn]

I've been there and experienced the racism first hand. Who are you to tell me that what I've seen was not racist? Blackhaze was one of the guys complaining about it at one stage but now he's too big of a pussy to stick to his beliefs. She's even admitted on Vicki's forum that she tells racist jokes so don't come on here and act a smug asshole with me. If I heard her once or twice being racist, I'd let it pass, but it's on a daily basis. Contrary to what you believe Quinn, you're not always right.

Like it or not, “SuperShaft,” the fact is that all of the relevant participants agree as to the benign nature and intent of what has been said. You – a noticeably anonymous entity without so much as an iota of credibility or demonstrable history of participation – are the only one who is offended. Given the unremittingly bitter tone of your responses here, it’s more than obvious what sort of umbrageous little fellow you are.

Feel free to type whatever woefully meager response suits you. For today at least, I can only offer you my pity.

-Quinn

[bxboy1984]

*tosses beer to Quinn*

[Li'l Zé]

Kelly, I'd just like to let everyone know that you're the most two faced person on the forum. I've seen you post positive comments towards Allanah and then bitch about her in the chatroom straight after doing so, and this has happened on more than one occassion. I'm generally an easy going guy that tolerates alot of things but you really are a disgusting person. You crack racist jokes, talk down on black men as if you've more right to be there than them. This happens almost daily and you surpass the impact it has on people and suck up the attention like the cheap whore you are.



If HA does get up and running again, I sure as fuck hope the mods grow a set of swingers and start modding the place like men (even though that's out of character for one in particular)

100% right about Kelly Shore
Did my best to ignore her inane bullshit on H.A

[SuperShaft]

Like it or not, “SuperShaft,” the fact is that all of the relevant participants agree as to the benign nature and intent of what has been said. You – a noticeably anonymous entity without so much as an iota of credibility or demonstrable history of participation – are the only one who is offended. Given the unremittingly bitter tone of your responses here, it’s more than obvious what sort of umbrageous little fellow you are.

Feel free to type whatever woefully meager response suits you. For today at least, I can only offer you my pity.

-Quinn

That's very kind of a big shot like you offering my pitty, I'm very gracious. The "relevant participants" haven't got mind's of their own, incase you haven't noticed. They just agree with everything each of them says, and Blackhaze can be included in the "co-sister" club.

Shouldn't you be sealing the deal for some wendyhouse in Mexico right now?

[Nicole Dupree]

That's very kind of a big shot like you offering my pitty, I'm very gracious. The "relevant" participants haven't got mind's of their own, incase you haven't noticed. They just agree with everything each of them says, and Blackhaze can be included in the "co-sister" club.

Shouldn't you be sealing the deal for some wendyhouse in Mexico right now?
Echimandu, take your coked up, drunken ass somewhere else. You are banning just waiting to happen.

Oh, btw, threaten to beat up any transsexuals lately, you dork?

[Osiris]

That's very kind of a big shot like you offering my pitty, I'm very gracious. The "relevant participants" haven't got mind's of their own, incase you haven't noticed. They just agree with everything each of them says, and Blackhaze can be included in the "co-sister" club.

Shouldn't you be sealing the deal for some wendyhouse in Mexico right now?
Ok, maybe you're not Allanah, but your shit stinks, you're probably one of those pathetic asses like NR from HA

[SuperShaft]

You guys are firing out the name's like it's nobodies business! I doubt you'll call it right but if you try hard enough, you never know!

[Nicole Dupree]

You guys are firing out the name's like it's nobodies business! I doubt you'll call it right but if you try hard enough, you never know!
Nice bluff, but we already do. :rolleyes:

[seanchai]

Nice - was chatting to some guys and then got banned for no reason.

As long as you have crackheads with the finger on ban switch, I've no reason to go back.

Shame on you Kelly. Shame on you Kira. You are mods there - assert control.

[Nicole Dupree]

Nice - was chatting to some guys and then got banned for no reason.

As long as you have crackheads with the finger on ban switch, I've no reason to go back.

Shame on you Kelly. Shame on you Kira. You are mods there - assert control.Did you log in as "Seanchai"?

[seanchai]

Nope but I introduced myself and was chatting to everyone Xfiver, Kelly, Tom, etc - under TheGeezer.
It's fairly clear that the crackhead kicked me. I'd been on for 15+ mins and all was civil.

[KellyShore]

Nice - was chatting to some guys and then got banned for no reason.

As long as you have crackheads with the finger on ban switch, I've no reason to go back.

Shame on you Kelly. Shame on you Kira. You are mods there - assert control.
Sean I lost connection, I have unbanned you.

[seanchai]

Sean I lost connection, I have unbanned you.

Thanks Kelly. Wouldn't you say that this is a problem though (and it goes back to my discussion on HA). When you let irrational, drugged up, egomaniacs have some control, then the other moderators lose control also?

[KellyShore]

Thanks Kelly. Wouldn't you say that this is a problem though (and it goes back to my discussion on HA). When you let irrational, drugged up, egomaniacs have some control, then the other moderators lose control also?
Yes I do feel it is an issue, Mimi when I left was trying to start an argument with you. She says she stands by the fact the chatroom is to argue it out, but then she bans you when you put your opinion out there.

I also hate the fact I have been the assumed person of banning people. I unban people most of the time that are banned. I am up for a challenge. The only time I have banned someone on intent was NYC2008 and thats because he was being totally disrespectful. He wasn't even holding an argument. He was just name calling. Anyone can say you are a man or sound like one, at least come up with something better.

[seanchai]

Good points.
I think that could be a great room but with irrational people on there - banning for no reason, is a real problem - it's just ego.

We've a ban on here of course, but unless it's something really obviously serious, then it's discussed by the panel of moderators.

[seanchai]

Banned again Kelly?

[whatsupwithat]

Banned again Kelly?

lol. it never ends, does it?

[seanchai]

Nah, it really is a joke, huh.

Shame that they can't get it together enough to run a chatroom seriously?

[Ecstatic]

Hmm, I logged in for about 15-20 minutes (under my usual nick, Ecstatic). I picked up pretty quickly that you were TheGeezer, and I bounced a few comments off a few people, then left. Mimi did seem very trigger happy to me (oops, now I'll be banned next time, lol).

[SuperShaft]

Seanchai, they couldn't run a car boot sale never mind a chatroom. If one admin doesn't like you then you've no chance of staying. That's the way they operate unfortunately.

[whatsupwithat]

haha! i guess i was banned, too. just went there and it won't allow me access even though i have a user name.

[justatransgirl]

Hi everyone - I confess I haven't read all 19 pages of this thread - which started out nice enough since I was wonderig what happened to HA.

I've been busy for a few days and suddenly I was being forced into HA withdrawal until I found this thread. Now I feel right at home in the flames.

Giggle,
TS Jamie :-)

Ban 'em all - let God sort 'em out... :-)

[AllanahStarrNYC]

Ok, maybe you're not Allanah, but your shit stinks, you're probably one of those pathetic asses like NR from HA

Hmm- of course he is not Allanah as I am Allanah and this is my only account on this board.

Seanchai could easily look up IP addresses and would know if it was me.

Furthermore, I do not engage in pretending to be someone else in order to say the things I want to say publicly. As I stated earlier, people who I do not like know well as well as does that I do like.

This thread has turned into another typical trainwreck that would occour on HA.

I am glad that Seanchai posted those rules and is instituting limits for the use of 'fag'.

The problem with that chatroom is that it's partly a vessel for cliques formed on HA to berate and look down on other people. With a name like 'Fight Club' what else could you expect?

And I am sorry- but that rule about whatever happens in fight club stays there is just BS.

If you have the balls to post and talk about someone or something in a public chat room- then you SHOULD the balls to be liable for what you have said when it is brought up to your attention.

After I posted what I did on FC- I got several PMs from peope including other ts chatters in that room- who sent me messages saying 'thank you' for exposing some of the stuff that went on in there. I won't say who as it is no necessesary.

The truth of the matter is that most people like to talk about other people- but when someone talks about them the story changes. Most people who talk about others don't have the balls to say what they have to say to the person in direct contact, or stand by it.

[WendyWilliams]

YAWN,,,,,,,,so many want to confront and "have it out", yet I created a name and now Im "banned" LOL

Im not wasting anymore time when I could be spamming yahoo groups LOL

[bxboy1984]

wuwt-that happens sometimes, ill check the ip's, but sometimes even the mods cant get in.


seanchai. its been handled.

others-reserve your jugdements till you come in for more than and hour (if you can last that long with out spewing dumb shit ie nyc2008)

[bxboy1984]

wnedy your name isnt on the banned . ive checked all the ips. it may not be our fault. Your more than welcome in here, as was your fan.

[WendyWilliams]

Sweetie yes I am banned it says the following:

"ACCESS RESTRICTED. VISIT THE SITE DIRECTLY TO CHAT"


My fans cant be bothered nor can I................play on!

[bxboy1984]

im looking right at the site. only 4 people (who i know specifically) are banned. you are not one of them. Trust me when i say it is not our fault. You may have to login in b4 clickin the chat link. if that does not work, clear you cookies and try again.

but if you choose not to be bothered, no tear shall be shed.

[WendyWilliams]

LOL "no tear shall be shed"

YOU GOT THAT RIGHT ASSHOLE

[KellyShore]

Hmm, I logged in for about 15-20 minutes (under my usual nick, Ecstatic). I picked up pretty quickly that you were TheGeezer, and I bounced a few comments off a few people, then left. Mimi did seem very trigger happy to me (oops, now I'll be banned next time, lol).
You meanie I said dock me so you could hear me talking to you! :confused:

[KellyShore]

Eric and Wendy you have to login then hit refresh or click the window out then reopen it, thats happened to me several times. I hope you come in Eric :)

[str8mlover4ts]

After reading this thread, now I understand what is going on. Glad I came here to check. Looks like because I signed into chat just once, now I too am banned from HA. Can someone help? I go by the same username there too. Thanks.

[Nicole Dupree]

LOL "no tear shall be shed"

YOU GOT THAT RIGHT ASSHOLE:D - Wendy, please try again if you feel like it. There's no reason for you to be banned, and you will be given mod status once you get access. I've had problems getting in there too, so please don't take it personally. That goes for Allanah as well if she has any interest.

Personally I'm not very fond of the name "Fight Club" either. But, regardless, I think you will see that there really isn't very much "fighting" going on in there anyway. For instance, yesterday Kelly and I were talking about surgeries and FL drag pageants for about an hour. So it may be a little different there than you're picturing it. And, once you're a mod, you can also create a private room if you choose to do so.

Btw, Seanchai did express the opinion on the last day HA was open that Mimi should be banned before people like Moni and Night Rider, who were using fake names and instigating flame wars. So if she is a bit trigger happy towards him, I think its somewhat understandable.

[bxboy1984]

LOL "no tear shall be shed"

YOU GOT THAT RIGHT ASSHOLE


so im an asshole? i said nothin demeaning to you. All i said is if you dont come, im not gonna cry about it. You wanna come on, come on in, if you have probs, find one of the admin (i know you have JW email, he can help you, as can any of the other ladies)

smh @ tru colors

[WendyWilliams]

Nicole I love your hair in that pic, sorry off topic.

[bxboy1984]

ok one more time for all.
you have to login first, before clicking the chat link. to do this go to http://www.userplane.com/directory/index.cfm?action=domain.home
then you can go here
http://www.userplane.com/directory/index.cfm?action=chat.loadChatFrameset&domainCode=4E5CA3DE9B755EDF4B77641437362C84&initialRoom=&app=ch


THIS SHOULD WORK!!! *sigh*
Seanchai, Estatic and a few others figured it out. it has nothin gto do with being banned. its userplanes fault.

[KellyShore]

Not to pick an argument with you Allanah, but the things some of the people bitch about in the room you would never allow to be said on Hung Angels. You openly admitted that on Hung Angels in that birthday thread of Jennifer Paris's. You said "you are the moderator and things will be deleted if their out of taste about me." Which is fine on your part, but you can't really say the people in question wouldn't say what they had to say if you didn't have control of that.

[str8mlover4ts]

ok one more time for all.
you have to login first, before clicking the chat link.

Thanks bx... but I really wasn't asking about the userplane chat.... will someone tell me... is HA back up and running yet???????? That's all inquiring minds want to know. And I thought that was what this thread started out discussing.

[bxboy1984]

Thanks bx... but I really wasn't asking about the userplane chat.... will someone tell me... is HA back up and running yet???????? That's all inquiring minds want to know. And I thought that was what this thread started out discussing.



was not speakin directly to you, but all those interested.
nope ha is still down. and doenst look like returning :(

[str8mlover4ts]

was not speakin directly to you, but all those interested.
nope ha is still down. and doenst look like returning :(

Thanks bx! That's what I wanted to know. Appreciate it. Now I'm off to find some porn! lol

[seanchai]

Btw, Seanchai did express the opinion on the last day HA was open that Mimi should be banned before people like Moni and Night Rider, who were using fake names and instigating flame wars. So if she is a bit trigger happy towards him, I think its somewhat understandable.

Not knowing anything about fake names until after the fact - and since then, we've pretty much shown that Mimi is probably a crackhead or has serious other issues - my original point was valid, why give the power to ban someone to an individual who displays the same character traits as those who are going to be banned?
The only girl who got a bug in their arse about it was you Nicole - even though I fully explained myself and you must somewhat agree with the point I was trying to make (leaving the false ids issue aside).

[AllanahStarrNYC]

but if you choose not to be bothered, no tear shall be shed.

if you are an ambassador for this chat- as you have posted so many of the supposed postive aspects, and welcoming aspects of it,

why then do you have to end it with such a shady remark?

[AllanahStarrNYC]

Not to pick an argument with you Allanah, but the things some of the people bitch about in the room you would never allow to be said on Hung Angels. You openly admitted that on Hung Angels in that birthday thread of Jennifer Paris's. You said "you are the moderator and things will be deleted if their out of taste about me." Which is fine on your part, but you can't really say the people in question wouldn't say what they had to say if you didn't have control of that.


What you are reffering to was actually in a thread directed at Crayons when she was going off of Nicole and a few others-in regards to a thread I had posted about gentlemen.

I left many negative comments in regards to me on HA. Last one I remember was SDMan saying several things about me in Wendy's post about who would win the AVN Award. I left those untouched.

Personally, I certainly did NOT read every single thread on there. I simply do not have the time.

The reason I became a Mod was years ago someone was posting personal information on a member and I was given the power to delete things if that issue came up again since there were only two mods at a time and they could not be there all the time.

That was the only reason.

There is no argument with you or anyone Kelly as I am not arguing with anyone.

[bxboy1984]

if you are an ambassador for this chat- as you have posted so many of the supposed postive aspects, and welcoming aspects of it,

why then do you have to end it with such a shady remark?


because im not going to kiss ass for someone to come. I posted it because soem of the former member wanted the link, and i tried to make sure i was answering questions and concerns. If thats shady to you than keep it moving cause im a shady brotha. She said she was banned twice, and both times i refuted her claim and provided not only her but others instructions to get in with no problem. Seanchai and estatic both were able to direct their claims
to me as well as come in to the room with out making false accusations.


shade over :roll:

[Buddy Wood]

Wow!! I can't believe I just read most of that crap. And I still don't get it. I got shit to do and I know Seanchai does. Don't make him a referee as well as a positive porn producer.

I forgot this site even exsisted and it's a part of my extended Grooby family so I'll be here more often - even if HungDevils goes back up soon.

Buddy

[justatransgirl]

Hey Buddy! I was going to e-mail you about this, but you beat me to it.

BTW folks that is NOT Buddy in his avatar. But a few more years sitting at that computer honey and well... you never know.

Giggle,
TS Jamie :-)

[Buddy Wood]

No Jamie that is me. I've let my beard go and put on a few since moving to LA. I work primarily from home so I never get dressed anymore. I'm ok with it.

Acually I just always thought that pic was hilarious. Not that fat people are funny but that pic just screams - "I spend too much time online!!"

[WendyWilliams]

yes blckhaze my goal in life is to lie about being banned LOL

You didnt refute anything, I received the error message that I posted for you........CASE CLOSED.

NO shade just the truth.

[bxboy1984]

and i showed you how to get past it so...

[Mandy M]

Wow!! I can't believe I just read most of that crap. And I still don't get it. I got shit to do and I know Seanchai does. Don't make him a referee as well as a positive porn producer.

I forgot this site even exsisted and it's a part of my extended Grooby family so I'll be here more often - even if HungDevils goes back up soon.

Buddy

Maybe we should just start up our own simulcast soap opera, HA is totally tranny soaps. Glad to see you over here, Buddy, you should really shave your beard though.

[whatsupwithat]

No Jamie that is me. I've let my beard go and put on a few since moving to LA. I work primarily from home so I never get dressed anymore. I'm ok with it.

Acually I just always thought that pic was hilarious. Not that fat people are funny but that pic just screams - "I spend too much time online!!"

i know the perfect girl for you! ;)

[Buddy Wood]

Maybe we should just start up our own simulcast soap opera, HA is totally tranny soaps. Glad to see you over here, Buddy, you should really shave your beard though.


Ohh you girls up north love your rugged men with beards. Actually that is a great idea Mandy. Some sort of tranny soap opera/porn. A continuing saga. All My Trannys. Days Of Our Lies. Gender Hospital. Come back down here for a week and let's get it started.

Buddy

[WendyWilliams]

Nevermind. LOL

[bxboy1984]

and for the record, ms williams, you never answered my question to you earlier in the thread.

if its not a privilege than what do you call being able to go to a chat where, in you case, you have 100&#37; of the power.
I never once asked to be a mod, but was appointed as I able to be on when most people are still at work, so i can
resolve he problems such as yours. So if you could return the favor of me answering your posts, by answering my question.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

because im not going to kiss ass for someone to come. I posted it because soem of the former member wanted the link, and i tried to make sure i was answering questions and concerns. If thats shady to you than keep it moving cause im a shady brotha. She said she was banned twice, and both times i refuted her claim and provided not only her but others instructions to get in with no problem. Seanchai and estatic both were able to direct their claims
to me as well as come in to the room with out making false accusations.


shade over :roll:


what exactly do you mean by 'keep it moving'?

are you politely trying to tell me to fuck off?

[AllanahStarrNYC]

Ohh you girls up north love your rugged men with beards. Actually that is a great idea Mandy. Some sort of tranny soap opera/porn. A continuing saga. All My Trannys. Days Of Our Lies. Gender Hospital. Come back down here for a week and let's get it started.

Buddy

Buddy nice self portrait!

LOL

Just kidding :)

Nice to see ya darling.

[Mandy M]

Ohh you girls up north love your rugged men with beards. Actually that is a great idea Mandy. Some sort of tranny soap opera/porn. A continuing saga. All My Trannys. Days Of Our Lies. Gender Hospital. Come back down here for a week and let's get it started.

Buddy

But I wanna make a hitchiker movie, you can leave the soaps for the other girls, I wanna make an action/horror porn, and I want all my punk rock friends to make the soundtrack. I'm going to be in California shortly after Valentines day, what do ya say?

[bxboy1984]

what exactly do you mean by 'keep it moving'?

are you politely trying to tell me to fuck off?

essentially, because youre looking for a reason to not like me, or the people associated with the chat. I will not use any slang so that you can understand what im saying as clearly as possible. when i said "no tear shall be said" i meant Ive shown everyone who want to come in the way to get in and why they may think theyre banned. if they dont want to make the effort, why should i be upset? why should i beg her to come when she dun want to?

and as far as keep it moving, i mean what i say, keep moving right on past me, because we wont get along, so save both of us time and energy.

[WendyWilliams]

Allanah he is just trying to be "wanted" another person to feel important, power can do that to someone.

I made an effort several times to join the little hate club however I received an access denied several times, then it cleared up and when I entered I was booted again. Im sorry if your little chat group is having trouble with the software, ban happy mods, or whatever the reason Im not going to keep trying and honestly now I have no need to want to be part of it. And who asked you to beg? Honestly who are you? In my many years at HA I only recall a few times even reading a post by you until recently when you joined the "power hungry group". We can end this really easy now.

Im done with this conversation with you or about you, we both can agree to disagree and move on.

Wendy

[bxboy1984]

Allanah he is just trying to be "wanted" another person to feel important, power can do that to someone.

I made an effort several times to join the little hate club however I received an access denied several times, then it cleared up and when I entered I was booted again. Im sorry if your little chat group is having trouble with the software, ban happy mods, or whatever the reason Im not going to keep trying and honestly now I have no need to want to be part of it. And who asked you to beg? Honestly who are you? In my many years at HA I only recall a few times even reading a post by you until recently when you joined the "power hungry group". We can end this really easy now.

Im done with this conversation with you or about you, we both can agree to disagree and move on.

Wendy



LOL Privilige ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,now thats a stretch of the word.

BLckhaze Ive always enjoyed your posts but this new posterchild/spokesperson for the userplane room is awkward to say the least.

Wendy

somehow these two statement seem to be somewhat contrary, but i may be wrong. :roll:

I showed you how its works as did kelly shore. Seanchai, WUWT, Estatic, and a few others were able to get in. Ive checked the ips a good number of times and unbanned anyone with out a named ip, and things have run smoothly since.

noone asked me to beg. that was my response to ms starr sayin i was "being shady" when i was being honest. its no dut on my shoulder if you, or anyone doesnt want to talk with Jw, hollywood, Juliana, kelly shore, jen justice, and a few other the more well known personallities, over even the little guys like me or stillies, who appreciate when people take the tim to sit down and have conversations with. I cant go to LA, and chill with Hara, or to Chitown and watch mimi and HeavenlySin aka Emily crack jokes on each other, but the chat allows that.

If youd like to try again feel free. The chat was created for people, such as yourself and Ms. starr, to interact with each other on a more personal basis. If not, the last sentence works just fine for me.

[Nicole Dupree]

The only girl who got a bug in their arse about it was you Nicole - even though I fully explained myself and you must somewhat agree with the point I was trying to make (leaving the false ids issue aside).Why must you try to pinpoint me as being the "girl who got a bug up her ass"? Do you see this Supershaft idiot? He is one of the people that was banned for threatening Kelly and me. Seanchai, are you even familiar with the poster "Silvester"? He has plagued Hara for about a year now, and came back as "James Hunt". And you can imagine the types of posts that "Carson_X" aka Monica Fox has had to contribute. I brought it to the mods' attention with a thread. First you said that "it figures that you girls are Americans", and now you want to blame me specifically for following the only recourse I knew. But perhaps if YOU were being threatened and constantly addressed as "she", you would be able to voice an opinion on the matter. Until then, you are an armchair critic. Don't shoot the messenger.

[WendyWilliams]

Not contrary sweetie, read what I said "recall reading a few of your posts"!

I think you are missng the point. If the chat room was designed for people to actually "chat" and not a room for people to sit and degrade and fight constantly then you would be correct however why would I especially want to sit in a room where just a few days ago you and others sat and made fun of me, degraded my looks, and tried too belitle a fan of mine. Why would anyone want to do that?

I interact with Allanah on a daily basis, hollywood on AOL and anyone else I feel isnt using that chat room as an ESCUSE for flaming!

Ok really this is getting old and Ive wasted way too much time on the issue.

Regards
Wendy

[seanchai]

Oh dear - once again you, you, you.


You've missed the point again, it's not about those who were doing the attacking (no I wasn't aware who they were) it was about who has the right to vote for a ban - and why make it into a public witchhunt (so a mod told you to do it ok ... "flip the switch on the gas chamber, Dieter!") - that individual didn't have the right to make the call on who got banned - and she's shown that with her usual manners in your chat room.


Armchair critic. Hmmm, I've been involved with this industry and the TS community then before you were a transsexual, my empathy, sensibilities and integrity have more than spoken for themselves over the years including attempting to give advice to you, when asked. I think I deserve a little more than that sort of brush off.

If you missed the American comment, I don't need to explain it. Mandy got it - it was tongue in cheek humour, something you seem to be lacking. Go check the post on "Extras" and it might change your mood.

[bxboy1984]

Not contrary sweetie, read what I said "recall reading a few of your posts"!

I think you are missng the point. If the chat room was designed for people to actually "chat" and not a room for people to sit and degrade and fight constantly then you would be correct however why would I especially want to sit in a room where just a few days ago you and others sat and made fun of me, degraded my looks, and tried too belitle a fan of mine. Why would anyone want to do that?

I interact with Allanah on a daily basis, hollywood on AOL and anyone else I feel isnt using that chat room as an ESCUSE for flaming!

Ok really this is getting old and Ive wasted way too much time on the issue.

Regards
Wendy


LMAO
true colors. true colors.

[WendyWilliams]

Sweetie Im very aware of my colors.

Sadly green is not the color for you or some of your "friends".

CIAO , dont you have a chatroom too attend?

Bed time.

[bxboy1984]

Sweetie Im very aware of my colors.

Sadly green is not the color for you or some of your "friends".

CIAO , dont you have a chatroom too attend?

Bed time.


ROFLMAO
its right next to this window, so i can make sure those who want in but cant, are takin care of.

and green doent buy you the things my "friends" and i enjoy most.

[Nicole Dupree]

Oh dear - once again you, you, you.


You've missed the point again, it's not about those who were doing the attacking (no I wasn't aware who they were) it was about who has the right to vote for a ban - and why make it into a public witchhunt (so a mod told you to do it ok ... "flip the switch on the gas chamber, Dieter!") - that individual didn't have the right to make the call on who got banned - and she's shown that with her usual manners in your chat room.


Armchair critic. Hmmm, I've been involved with this industry and the TS community then before you were a transsexual, my empathy, sensibilities and integrity have more than spoken for themselves over the years including attempting to give advice to you, when asked. I think I deserve a little more than that sort of brush off.

If you missed the American comment, I don't need to explain it. Mandy got it - it was tongue in cheek humour, something you seem to be lacking. Go check the post on "Extras" and it might change your mood.Seanchai, you will never know what it is like to try to escape your birth gender all of your life, so my armchair critic comment stands. And no offense, but being involved in the porn industry is not exactly the most constructive way to show empathy. I don't care what Mandy got or what you assume NYCe got from your jokes. To me, this was a serious issue that you stepped into without enough information to warrant you expressing an opinion, which you are now conveniently writing off as a few harmless "jokes". If you didn't have the 411, why speak at all?

[Nicole Dupree]

And obviously, our votes are meaningless unless someone does something about them. It was a petition, not an election. We signed it because we had personal experiences that we wanted to make people aware of. Next to everyone of those people's names was a link to all of their posts.

[Nicole Dupree]

And btw, Haze is a sweetheart; which no one other than the people who talk to him in real time are going to fully comprehend or appreciate. He is simply saying that the chatroom is not what many of you are assuming it is. It's hard to make people see that unless they're there. Echimandu, on the other hand, is not emotionally stable enough to paint an accurate picture. That's basically why he was banned.

[seanchai]

Seanchai, you will never know what it is like to try to escape your birth gender all of your life, so my armchair critic comment stands. And no offense, but being involved in the porn industry is not exactly the most constructive way to show empathy. I don't care what Mandy got or what you assume NYCe got from your jokes. To me, this was a serious issue that you stepped into without enough information to warrant you expressing an opinion, which you are now conveniently writing off as a few harmless "jokes". If you didn't have the 411, why speak at all?

I never said I wrote it off as a joke, I said I made one joke.

My point stands and you've failed to answer it despite being asked to comment on it multiple times.
I'll never have an idea why it's like to be a transgender - but I'm far, far much more than someone who is just involved in the porn industry, as you know. I'll also never have an idea of what it's like to constantly portray the victim card and refuse or mis-direct simple questions.

[Nicole Dupree]

I never said I wrote it off as a joke, I said I made one joke.

My point stands and you've failed to answer it despite being asked to comment on it multiple times.
I'll never have an idea why it's like to be a transgender - but I'm far, far much more than someone who is just involved in the porn industry, as you know. I'll also never have an idea of what it's like to constantly portray the victim card and refuse or mis-direct simple questions.Please don't put words in my mouth, or talk in circles. First, I see no question in the below post.

Oh dear - once again you, you, you.


You've missed the point again, it's not about those who were doing the attacking (no I wasn't aware who they were) it was about who has the right to vote for a ban - and why make it into a public witchhunt (so a mod told you to do it ok ... "flip the switch on the gas chamber, Dieter!") - that individual didn't have the right to make the call on who got banned - and she's shown that with her usual manners in your chat room.


Armchair critic. Hmmm, I've been involved with this industry and the TS community then before you were a transsexual, my empathy, sensibilities and integrity have more than spoken for themselves over the years including attempting to give advice to you, when asked. I think I deserve a little more than that sort of brush off.

If you missed the American comment, I don't need to explain it. Mandy got it - it was tongue in cheek humour, something you seem to be lacking. Go check the post on "Extras" and it might change your mood.

Secondly, no where did I call I say you called it "a" joke, although I hardly see what major difference it could make. You tried infusing levity into a thread where it was clearly uncalled for? So I think you're clutching at straws now, and try to play the semantics card, but you're failing miserably.

And speaking of cards, thirdly, the "victim card" here as you call it, are the threats being made and the trolls on HA who verbally abuse us without provocation. But if I have show you that, or explain how transwoman are victimized in the world at large, I'll simply throw up my hands and let you get back to your thankless work in the transgender community. ;)

[Nicole Dupree]

And lets be accurate. I asked you a few questions about the shemale porn industry; not about my transsexuality. I was born with GID, regardless of if I transitioned after you began your your websites or not.

[seanchai]

Ok Nicole, I'm done arguing with you.
Your blind to the truth and cannot answer a straight question. I've wasted enough time on you.

You win, your the victimised, poor little tranny who gets picked on all the time, your far more eloquent than I could ever be, your intelligence and humour should win awards.
Feel free to keep wittering away and whining.

[Nicole Dupree]

Ok Nicole, I'm done arguing with you.
Your blind to the truth and cannot answer a straight question. I've wasted enough time on you.
Feel free to keep wittering away and whining.You'll have to isolate whatever that supposed simple question is for me to answer it. Otherwise, I think its safe to assume that you don't know what to say.

Anyway, I still respect you for a variety of reasons, Seanchai. But in this instance you were wrong.

[seanchai]

And speaking of cards, thirdly, the "victim card" here as you call it, are the threats being made and the trolls on HA who verbally abuse us without provocation. But if I have show you that, or explain how transwoman are victimized in the world at large, I'll simply throw up my hands and let you get back to your thankless work in the transgender community. ;)

My final word though ... on HA's, the biggest threats and the most likely to do harm to another TS, based on whay I've read, is from a TS. I really wouldn't be surprised to hear of a beating or worse from something another TS has instigated and you are a major part of that problem for allowing those talks to go on.
Your a hypocrite and a bully and you support those who do the same, as long as they call themselves a TS.

[seanchai]

Anyway, I still respect you for a variety of reasons, Seanchai. But in this instance you were wrong.

I've asked it numerous times.
Why let someone who is a bully, attacks others (men and TS's) and adds nothing to a community have a say in who is banned and who isn't?
Don't you think that they should have been banned?

Sorry, I've lost all and any respect I had for you. Your standing up for people based on their gender and not based on their morals or the way they respect other people.

[Harajuku Tgirl]

Sweetie yes I am banned it says the following:

"ACCESS RESTRICTED. VISIT THE SITE DIRECTLY TO CHAT"


My fans cant be bothered nor can I................play on!

Ok after a long hiatus and reading this annoying thread. I've to put my 2cents worth. Wendy, I get that screen too (and a few times actually since it was started)! That's a glitch in our userplane chatroom. But I hit refresh or copy and paste the link on another browser and it opens up just fine.

I wish you wouldn't be too quick to assume people hate you or that they've banned you. There are no "cliques"..none! We all won't ever get along but we can fr sure all co-exist cant we? ;)

~Kisses.

~Kisses.

HTG

[AllanahStarrNYC]

essentially, because youre looking for a reason to not like me, or the people associated with the chat. I will not use any slang so that you can understand what im saying as clearly as possible. when i said "no tear shall be said" i meant Ive shown everyone who want to come in the way to get in and why they may think theyre banned. if they dont want to make the effort, why should i be upset? why should i beg her to come when she dun want to?

and as far as keep it moving, i mean what i say, keep moving right on past me, because we wont get along, so save both of us time and energy.

It is you that are making assumptions about me-I just asked a simple question.

FYI- I do like a lot of people who go in the chat like Hara who was the originator. So please refrain from muddleling my words.

You may think whatever you wish about me-it is of no consequence to me.

[WendyWilliams]

Hara please dont insult my intelligence, I received that error message numerous times, I refreshed the screen, I went to multiple computers in my house and I even emailed one of your mods and was told "I guess you were banned"................And Hara sweetie I dont "assume" anyone "hates" me, I have the screen log of where I was verbally made fun of, personally degraded by a few of my so called fellow sisters and so called ts fans............Im not ignorant to know that made fun of and hate are two different things but please dont give me bullshit when I can smell it...............If your system is having an error and I have went out of my way and decided its not worth doing it over and over and over, then why all of sudden am I the bitch?

You are the last person I would EVER expect such a comment from and that truly disappoints me.

Wendy

P:S,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Blckhaze the green comment has NOTHING to do with money, obviously you arent as bright as you wish to portray.

[Nicole Dupree]

I've asked it numerous times.
Why let someone who is a bully, attacks others (men and TS's) and adds nothing to a community have a say in who is banned and who isn't?
Don't you think that they should have been banned?

Sorry, I've lost all and any respect I had for you. Your standing up for people based on their gender and not based on their morals or the way they respect other people.That was your question? Do I think Mimi should be banned from HA? Well my answer is "no". It would be hypocritical. Mimi came to HA when people were already saying that she deserved to be choked (suggested by AndyUK and Cockcraver, I believe) because of the bus video. But those were comments that seemed to have slipped under your radar, or simply meant nothing to you as a mod. Secondly, it was Brenda that aired Mimi's dirty laundry about her eviction within the first few days of her joining the forum, which had placed her under even more harsh scrutiny. But again, my guess is that you are oblivious to those things happening.

As for the chat; Mimi is a mod there, not on HA. Imo the chat is a good place for differences to be settled, which saves the forum the ugliness of flame wars. Personally, I would ban no one from the chat. But by the same token, I am not Mimi's keeper. And since it is YOU that has an issue with Mimi and wanted her banned from HA, I don't see why you would expect her to greet you with open arms. Regardless, I contend that there are people on HA who are far worse, and that the overall tone of the board is that of a zoo. You, as a mod, are partially responsible for that tone, and shouldn't be isolating Mimi. Is Mimi an angel? Perhaps not, but she was never treated like a lady from day one, before she had ever even made one post.

As for you respecting me; I didn't think you possibly could have had any respect for me anyway, considering you never once opened your mouth or did anything as a mod when I was being attacked. When I stood up for myself to these trolls over the past few months, where were you? I'll tell you where. You were popping in to promote your sites, and left me hanging out to dry. So I don't think I'll miss what I obviously never had in the first place.

[GOTTAHAVEONION]

chat = too many chiefs and not enough Indians....it was supposed to be a place to work out differences but i see trash talking about people that are not even there...but whatever :rolleyes:

remember since y'all are friends with one mod over there , u still will be held accountable 4 your actions when it goes back live...

[Nicole Dupree]

chat = too many chiefs and not enough Indians....it was supposed to be a place to work out differences but i see trash talking about people that are not even there...but whatever :rolleyes:

remember since y'all are friends with one mod over there , u still will be held accountable 4 your actions when it goes back live...Much like Allanah, I can live with my words in or out of an internet chatroom. And although I can kick people out, I never do. I go there to socialize and have a little fun, which is next to impossible to do on HA without having some troll insert themselves and start trouble.

[SuperShaft]

Your a hypocrite and a bully and you support those who do the same, as long as they call themselves a TS.

BINGO! :bananas:

Nicole you still haven't answered Seanchai's question. Damn your stupid!

"Why let someone who is a bully, attacks others (men and TS's) and adds nothing to a community have a say in who is banned and who isn't?"

That does no necessarily mean Mimi. You fall into that class aswell!

[nikkitsfun]

YAWN,,,,,,,,so many want to confront and "have it out", yet I created a name and now Im "banned" LOL

Im not wasting anymore time when I could be spamming yahoo groups LOL

LOL that one and could not agree more.

Michael

[Quinn]

chat = too many chiefs and not enough Indians....

A valid criticism to be sure. Taking it one step further, I think exceedingly poor judgment has been shown when deciding to award "mod" status to certain women. Though a few have demonstrated consistent maturity and professionalism, an equal number have shown themselves to be both petty and erratic in their "moderating," often using the aforementioned position as a means to settle trivial grievances in an asymmetrical fashion. In short: great idea, poor implementation.

-Quinn

[whatsupwithat]

A valid criticism to be sure. Taking it one step further, I think exceedingly poor judgment has been shown when deciding to award "mod" status to certain women. Though a few have demonstrated consistent maturity and professionalism, an equal number have shown themselves to be both petty and erratic in their "moderating," often using the aforementioned position as a means to settle trivial grievances in an asymmetrical fashion. In short: great idea, poor implementation.

-Quinn

if i may go one step further...and this is in no way meant to disrespect anyone...the chatroom has been promoted as a place to say things that normally wouldn't be said about each other, as a place where censorship doesn't exist, correct? therein lies the problem. if there are no rules as to what can be said or not said how can anyone be sure of what to say or not to say? and throw in quinn's point...well, i think you can see where i'm going and what has been happening.

i'm not on any side on this. nor do i wish to take sides. i think we're all in this together and all this petty infighting and name calling is nothing but a negative diversion from what could be happening...the building of an online community where all are welcome and made to feel welcome in an environment that promotes a feeling of safety, trust, and responsibility.

have a beautiful day! :)

[Falrune]

Ahhh. This thread is giving me that warm, fuzzy feeling of HA nostalgia:)

[bxboy1984]

It is you that are making assumptions about me-I just asked a simple question.

FYI- I do like a lot of people who go in the chat like Hara who was the originator. So please refrain from muddleling my words.

You may think whatever you wish about me-it is of no consequence to me.


i never said every one doesnt like you. just me. just my observations, and answerin yours and wendys questions with zero sugar coating, which neither of you have took the time to answer mine. I never muddled your words, but you twisted mine.

and ms williams, well thats the impression you put off in your posts here and on HA so that all i have to go by.

others- yes we have alot of mods, and some are trigger happy. I can only speak for myself and say I've done everything I could to a) allow all who want to have simple discussion about a million and one things to enter and leave at their own will. I have talked with JW and some of the other admin at length about the banning policy and what should be done. If the room doesnt suite you after we handle these matter, i hold no ill will to anyone who tried their hand. If you have any complaints you can pm me and I'll do my best to sort it out. That way. you indians can outnumber the chiefs.

P.S. Thank you Hara, nicole and Kelly, for youre continued support of the room, and all who ventured there even if for 10 minutes.

[Nicole Dupree]

BINGO! :bananas:

Nicole you still haven't answered Seanchai's question. Damn your stupid!

"Why let someone who is a bully, attacks others (men and TS's) and adds nothing to a community have a say in who is banned and who isn't?"

That does no necessarily mean Mimi. You fall into that class aswell!Loser, I didn't give Mimi that power. ALL the girls in the chat have it. Damn you're stupid! Go snort a line and have a drink, dork.

[Ecstatic]

You meanie I said dock me so you could hear me talking to you! :confused:

So that's what "dock me" means! I had no idea! However, I don't have cam or mic hooked up on my PC, so I probably can't "dock" anyway.

Anyway, I enjoyed my short visit, and I'll be back.

[Nicole Dupree]

So that's what "dock me" means! I had no idea! However, I don't have cam or mic hooked up on my PC, so I probably can't "dock" anyway.

Anyway, I enjoyed my short visit, and I'll be back.Ecstatic, you don't need to go on mic or have a cam to dock someone. Simply click their name in the list, and their A and/or V will appear in the box below. Once it is, you will see a button to dock them. You can dock two visitors, and watch and listen to one more after you click their name, making it a total of three.

[flabbybody]

I'm still confused as to why the arguing about UP administration led to the HA shutdown.
or is it totally unrelated?

[Nicole Dupree]

And maybe the girls will appreciate their banning power after seeing the stalker-like disposition of banned HA member, Echimandu, which he is displaying right here. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[Nicole Dupree]

I'm still confused as to why the arguing about UP administration led to the HA shutdown.
or is it totally unrelated?
It's Seanchai's issue, not NYCe's. He's trying to change the subject because he doesn't like being without the power that he's so used to on the forums when he's in the chat. But anyone who read that thread would know that his "jokes" were not funny and totally uncalled for.

[Ecstatic]

Ecstatic, you don't need to go on mic or have a cam to dock someone. Simply click their name in the list, and their A and/or V will appear in the box below. Once it is, you will see a button to dock them. You can dock two visitors, and watch and listen to one more after you click their name, making it a total of three.

Thanks, Nicole! That clarifies things quite a bit. And I'm very happy to know now that "dock me" doesn't mean something else, lol. Context is everything. ;)

[bxboy1984]

LOL @ ECSTATIC
youre welcome any time m8

flabby the matter were unrelated. the only tie between them is that all the members in the room were the first to know and alert the masses.


Nicole, let it go. It only degrades you when you go that route.

[Nikki]

wow long thread :), and HA still down

[Nicole Dupree]

Nicole, let it go. It only degrades you when you go that route.You're right. I'll leave now. Hopefully everyone will enjoy Echimandu's company, and continue supporting Seanchai's altruistic endeavors after I'm gone. ;)

[Mandy M]

Ok, as is the case in most arguments, (almost) everyone has a valid point, yet the anger mounts because recognizing other peoples opinions as holding truth in some way negates the validity of your own feelings. Rather than jump into the he-said she said of it all, I think I'm just going to say a couple of things that I've been thinking, after watching the drama on HA for the last two years and trying to stay out of it. This is directed specifically at some of the women, from HA, that I've never really interacted with, but I've been reading your posts and I'd just like to say a few things.

Nicole:
When you wrote me asking me to sign a petition to ban certain members, I didn't want to be unsupportive, I just was not able to get involved. I struggle to much with depression and anxiety, and am trying to stay sober for the first time since my transistion, so I just didn't want to be involved. I really appreciated your solidarity in the Ladies room when that nasty shit was being said by a certain someone about working girls. I think you are a tough, hot, and intelligent woman. You can hold your own, and if I lived anywhere near Florida I would gladly buy you a drink.

The whole Mimi thing
well I saw when Brenda posted that drama about her months back and I thought it was totally uncalled for. I don't wanna know peoples stupid interpersonal drama, I come here for business, and it detracts. That said, I also don't like it when people make nasty comments about a trans-womans appearance, as if it is a sign of personal defect that a girl looks the way she does. If someone does something fucked up, by all means, call them out, hold them accountable, but low blows are just that low blows.

Allanah
I don't know you, have never seen your porn, will probably never go to any of your parties. I really admired some of the comments I read by you on HA, especially after receiving the AVN award. Your grace, poise, and positivity were inspiring. It's exciting to me (as a 26 year old woman entering the porn world) to see that you don't have to be 18 to make something of yourself in the business. Thanks for the inspiration.

Wendy
I've watched people make rude comments about you, put you down, whatever, since I stumbled into this whole messy world. You've got a backbone of steel girl, and you are also an inspiration. I don't know what kind of interpersonal messiness exists between you and others (if any), but you are obviously hard working and dedicated to the genre, and making it better for those of us who follow. No one can take away from your sucess.
If people are behaving like a bunch of highschool kids, well, you graduated from college, who needs it?

Kelly Shore
When I started browsing HA people were putting you down all the damn time. I may not like some of the things you say, and I like my eyebrows just fine thank you very much ;). But I'm glad you stuck around and persevered, you are a tough cookie with a good sense of humor.
If any of you gals pass through the Pacific Northwest feel free to look me up.

xoxo
Mandy

[WendyWilliams]

Mandy,

It really means alot for the upcoming generation of porn gals to give me such a compliment. For the past 5 years I have worked extra hard because I dont live in a bubble and I know the level of my appeal. My fan base is strong and loyal. If you ever need any advice or just need to know something that I can help you with , feel free to email me.

Thank you for the post as it really means alot.
Wendy

[seanchai]

It's Seanchai's issue, not NYCe's. He's trying to change the subject because he doesn't like being without the power that he's so used to on the forums when he's in the chat. But anyone who read that thread would know that his "jokes" were not funny and totally uncalled for.

That's absolute rubbish and untrue. NYCe has told me personally it wasn't to do with me. It's to do with other issues Flabby, and the constant infighting there - probably caused by Nicole and her little crew trying to have too much power.
It was only partially related to that post - and my comments had little to do with it.
You may remember he closed it temporarily and give a warning a couple of months back. Self-righteous, sour-pusses like Nicole ignored that, played their cards and lost.

Nicole - no need to answer any further arguments with you. You've shown yourself to be a hyprocite, you've shown that your argument is all about winning and not about discourse and your a thoroughly, unpleasant individual.
You might want to ask why so many arguments follow your nasty dispostion around. It's you.

[Nicole Dupree]

That's absolute rubbish and untrue. NYCe has told me personally it wasn't to do with me. It's to do with other issues Flabby, and the constant infighting there - probably caused by Nicole and her little crew trying to have too much power.
It was only partially related to that post - and my comments had little to do with it.
You may remember he closed it temporarily and give a warning a couple of months back. Self-righteous, sour-pusses like Nicole ignored that, played their cards and lost.

Nicole - no need to answer any further arguments with you. You've shown yourself to be a hyprocite, you've shown that your argument is all about winning and not about discourse and your a thoroughly, unpleasant individual.
You might want to ask why so many arguments follow your nasty dispostion around. It's you.No. You changed the subject on this thread, from why HA was shut down to why Mimi is a mod in the chat.

And I have no "crew" (although I'd love to know who they supposedly are), played no "cards", and want no power. You're the power tripper, Steven. If I were you I'd stop putting your foot in your mouth, with backpedaling about "jokes", and weak diversionary tactics in our convo here because you are looking the fool. Although you're a shrewd business man, accuracy and logic are conveniently not your strong suits.

You never told me where or when you spoke up for me, never explained your "emperor in the hood" or "American" jokes, and never explained why you've attempted to change the subject of both threads to Mimi. Stop being a brat, and face the music for a change. Lofty notions of "crews" and "power" are weak. Maybe when NYCe lets you get back to endorsing your products on HA, you'll snap out of your evasive and accusatory delirium.

[seanchai]

No. You changed the subject on this thread, from why HA was shut down to why Mimi is a mod in the chat.

And I have no "crew" (although I'd love to know who they supposedly are), played no "cards", and want no power. You're the power tripper, Steven. If I were you I'd stop putting your foot in your mouth, with backpedaling about "jokes", and weak diversionary tactics in our convo here because you are looking the fool. Although you're a shrewd business man, accuracy and logic are conveniently not your strong suits.

You never told me where or when you spoke up for me, never explained your "emperor in the hood" or "American" jokes, and never explained why you've attempted to change the subject of both threads to Mimi. Stop being a brat, and face the music for a change. Lofty notions of "crews" and "power" are weak. Maybe when NYCe lets you get back to endorsing your products on HA, you'll snap out of your evasive and accusatory delirium.

CREW = Your little gang of people to vote.
Emperor in the Hood = Star Wars reference, the Emperor was always pulling the strings.
American TS's = poor voting records (or untrue voting) bit to subtle for you probably, especially as your in Florida.

Face what music? Being a brat?
I don't think Mimi should have a say over who gets banned on HungAngels - that's my one point. If your comfortable having her as a mod on your little chat thing, then that's your mistake.

Nicole your useless at any form of discourse. Wasted far too much time with you already just to get you to answer one point. Everything with you is mis-direct, maybe it's time to do what you threatened to do previously, mis-direct your arse somewhere else.

[Nicole Dupree]

Steven, if you want discourse, feel free to write or call me. I didn't begin a conversation with you on HA. Remember? But I have answered your questions, and you have answered NONE of mine. I think you can come up with something better than essentially saying, "I was joking". It's on the same level as saying, "My dog ate my homework."

[Endeavour]

Well, what can I say? As a member who was banned after a year for having one disagreement with one of the newly instated "members of power", I kind of feel a bit strange about the whole thing.

I was there for a over a year and never had one disagreement with any of the girls until one decided to put my name in a poll after a disagreement in the old gabbly chatroom, and from there is escalated way too far.

Allot was said about the word fag being used, but it wasn't even about the word its self, its just ridiculous how when you say anything that some of the particular girls don't like they throw that out there repeatedly and then bitch to the mods when you say something back.

I don't care what anyone says if a girl be they Transgender or not, can say whatever they choose to me, I also have that right!

I'm sorry but the whole thing started when people who should not have been, were given powers they couldn't handle and certainly did not deserve.

It should have simply been the same three mods controlling everything that always did, it worked that way for years, so why change it?

Giving people who like to start shit power just gives them free reign to cause trouble and then banish anyone that decides to stand up to that shit.

Most people at HA know I am not a bad person, I just got caught up in some stuff that I have had time to reflect on, YES! I did go over the top, but I started none of it.

I am guilty of taking it way to too seriously and actually find it funny now, but I stand by the fact that no one has anymore right to an opinion than anyone else, and being abusive and offensive despite having the "HHA" status or how hot they might look is just that.

Too many people at HA wear Rose Tinted Glasses and in fear of being called a "fag" or something of the sort are scared to stand up to the bullshit that some of the girls talk day in and day out.

Saying that, there are many cool girls there, and as I said in over a year I had problems with one and one only, and I'm over that lol. But given the same situation I would do the same again, I respect everybody as human being and nothing more, gender, race or colour and will respond to them how I feel necessary.

As for the have a go heroes lol, that place is spilling over with them, they will say anything to ingratiate themselves with a girl and that is ridiculous.

And, Haze you are a cool guy and I didn't use the userplane chatroom but your rules do not make sense, take the fight club film if you will, it wouldn't have been the same if certain participents were given extra powers to bannish a member for hitting them in a certain way, it would be called "Pussy Club". How can it be a fair place if a certain few people can say and do what they want, but others can not? It doesn't make any sense, What? Just because they know a mod, been at the site longer, or are Transgender they deserve that right? Of course not!

All people are equal! And that was what was forgotten at HA, girls on power trips and people with major delusions of grandeur. That is what I was trying to point out all along, but yes, I did go about it in the wrong way.

Giving power to certain people was like giving power to stalin and we all know what happened there.

OH, BTW it's lust here and I'm not here to cause trouble and get in flame wars I certainly no longer have the time for that, it's just nice to be able to have my opinion at what seems like a fair place compared to how HA was towards the end.:-)

[Lover]

It seems shallow, selfish, and short-sighted to spend a lot of time and energy creating a site and generating traffic to it, having many people supporting it and contributing to it, and then throwing it all away and shutting it down without saying anything to most of those who helped make it what it was.

[seanchai]

Notice : This thread will be locked as of midnight Jan 29th Eastern Time.

If you have anything to say, now is the time.

No other threads can be started on any outstanding issues on HA or regarding the closure of HA. Feel free to start them again on HA when it goes back up.

Steven

[Quinn]

OH, BTW it's lust here. . . .

Hey, lust4ts, how's it going? Good to see you here.

-Quinn

[Nikki]

oopssssss

[Endeavour]

Hey, lust4ts, how's it going? Good to see you here.

-Quinn


I'm good Quinn, how are you? It's good to see a few of the real people here such as yourself, I just thought it was time to have my opinion, I kind of knew what was going to happen at HA, as a big eared Will Smith once said on a track called “Summertime”, “If it isn’t broke then don’t try and fix it”. There was nothing wrong with the way HA was being moderated, the minute you start giving certain people extra power, other people want it and it all gets out of control.

But yeah, I’m good man, been very busy and been on holiday in the sun for a week, it’s good to see you too!:cool:

[flabbybody]

I've been going to tgirl bars, hang outs, and parties for 20 years in New York, and except for an occasional booze- induced brawl, I've never seen people talk to each with so much rancor and hatred as they do here. And the majority of people on HA have never met each other in person. Maybe it's the internet that brings out the most inhuman side in people.

glad this thread is getting shut down at midnight. kinda mirrors the fate of HA

[whatsupwithat]

amen.