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MsDazzler
03-07-2007, 06:23 PM
Okay, guys, I just got hired at Men's Health as a feature writer for a special article on dating T-girls. :D


MsDazzler, at your disposal, sharing some tips that will ensure you maximize your experiences to the most satifiscation with a Tgirl, regardless of whether you are lookking to date or just hook up.

Complied from my own experiences, men's comments, other Tgirls' expeirences/comments, postings from this forum, and other reading materials, here I present them:

TIP #1: DON'T ASSUME ANYTHING ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC TGIRL YOU ARE MEETING OR DATING BASED ON YOUR PREVIOUS TGIRL, HEARSAY, OR PORNO

This might sound trite or rather obvious, but you'd be surprised at how many guys start the meeting or encounter with preset expectations/assumptions.

EXAMPLE: The most common assumption guys have with me is that since I look so passable and feminine, I must be on hormones, therefore the breasts they see on me must be real underneath the bra or the shirt. WRONG! This usually leads to a big disappointment for them when they tear my top off and get disappointed when my boobs don't fall out like expected.

EXAMPLE: Online, guys keep saying stuff over and over again like "I heard that trannies or tgirls (insert phrase here)" or "Is it true that TS (insert phrase here)" to me. Hearsay is not good evidence for you to base assumptions on.

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TIP #2: All Tgirls don't have pussies, therefore they must love anal sex because that s the only hole to go with, right? WRONG! My best Tgrrlfriend has complained about this because she hates anal sex and prefers oral sex, only, and frankly, this has led to friction and clashing with guys who assume that all tgirls must love getting fucked in the ass becuz they dont have pussies. So don't expect all Tgirls to like having anal sex.

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TIP #3: DON'T HOLD UP US ON A PEDESTAL, DON'T COMPARE US TO FAMOUS TRANNY STARS, OR TO GENETIC GIRLS.

Because you will always get disappointed. Tranny stars are paid to look glamorous, get plastic surgery, and be able to afford nice jugs. So don't go meeting a T-girl, expecting her to be like Gia Darling or Allanah Starr. There is only one Gia Darling, just like only one Allanah Starr, and that Tgirl you are meeting is the only one in the world. if you just meet a tgirl expecting a normal girl, you won't be as disappointed. Also don't assume she got the endurance of a tranny porn star. lol

This really bugs me, but it annoys me when guys compare me to genetic girls. Even though Tgirls may be eptiomes of the ideal woman or they want to be treated as women, not all of them are perfect. You cannot just beat years and years of male conditioning and indoctrination, and even bury it 100%. Flashes of "male" behavior or habits will surface, or some "male" characteristics may even not be eradicated.

EXAMPLE: I shower with a guy. Unwittingly I wrap the towel around my hips rather than my chest. He rags on me for not behaving like a woman in this case.

EXAMPLE #2: My tgrrlfriends, drunk, pee up standing in the alleys, just like guys. When you are drunk, you fall back on your old habits, and when you are drunk, you do things that require least thinking and effort, which standing up is. lol
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TIP #4: CONTINUING THE TIP FROM ABOVE, ALSO DON'T COMPARE THE TGIRL IN QUESTION'S BODY TO A GENETIC WOMAN. YOU WILL NOT BE HAPPY IN THE END, AND IT S POINTLESS AND WILL JUST DEAL A BLOW TO HER EGO.

EXAMPLE: When I was coming out of the bathroom all sexy in stockings, the guy on the couch commented, "You kinda have big shoulders." :shock: Totally inappropriate comment at a totally wrong moment.

you just have to face it, Tgirls were born in male bodies, with male characteristics. The sooner you accept that your dream Tgirl won't have fertile, hourglass hops, or may be very tall, the happier you ll be off.
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TIP #5: WATCH THE WAY THE TGIRL TOUCHES HER HAIR TO ASCERTAIN WHETHER IT IS A WIG OR NOT. (DON'T ASK)

You ll know whether to be careful when touching her hair during kissing or sex, so if it s a wig, you know not to knock her around or it may fall off, embarrassing her, or spoiling your perception of her. Because hair plays a huge role in feminizing the appearance, your perception may be quite ruined if the girl in question has shaved head. LOL
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TIP #6: NEVER SAY "I WISH YOU WERE A REAL GIRL" or "ONLY IF YOU WERE A GIRL..." (especially after sex!)

This is akin to saying to a girl, "I wish you were like Angelina Jolie" or a girl telling you, "I wish you were like Brad Pitt" after sex.

Those comments serve to do nothing but really belittle the person. There s no purpose on making those remarks to the Tgirl you r seeing or just fucked. You are playing by law and society's definition of a "girl", she is playing by her heart and mind's laws, which in her eyes she is a real girl.

The less you obsess on the fact that law (perhaps biology, too) deems her not to be a real girl, the happier and more satisifed you will be.
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TIP #7: JUST LIKE WOMEN, TGIRLS WILL EVENTUALLY WANT TO MEET YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY, if the relationship is progressing.

Of course it s understandable if you are nervous and don't want your close social circles finding out. We understand this totally. If you are not willin to do that, then you have to be willing to hang out with OUR FRIENDS.

What does this mean? This mean in exchange for maintaining your secrecy with your social circles (and we sacrifice the opporunity to bond with your friends just like genetic girls), YOU ACCEPT our friends since they will know about us and won't be discriminating. Therefore, since many Tgirls have gay friends and they run around in gay circles/bars/clubs, it is either hanging out with your straight friends and them finding out OR hanging out with our gay friends and being nonjudgmental and not whining about it and being uncomfortable.

You may think this is trite, but it is so true. Many guys have told me "but I dont like gay people", or "I am not gay, I am not going to hang out in gay bars". Well, sorry, honey, but my best friend is gay, and he has always been there for me, while guys come and go. I am not going to sacrifice my best friend to spend all of my time ALONE with the guy of the moment if he is not willing to sacrifice his discreteness with HIS friends.

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PART 2 OUT SOON.

2Real4U
03-07-2007, 06:29 PM
Filed under "common sense"... but a good post anyway. I always wonder why some dudes try to compare TG's with GG's... it's totally unfair.

MsDazzler
03-07-2007, 08:17 PM
actually, common sense is what some people lack sorely... and this is always useful for newbies, too. :)

And.. it is just wishful thinking.... dudes want everything that they like about GGs spliced onto a T-Girl... that s why they constantly compare.

WillowQueen
03-07-2007, 08:30 PM
Wow. This is in men's health? I would think it would be a touchy subject and have to be approached slowly. Oh well, yay for progression!

seanchai
03-07-2007, 08:32 PM
Excellent Dazzler - reminds me of a similar post I done about 6 years ago on Yum for guys wanting to meet non-escort girls.
While it might seem like common sense - I'd heard so many stupid and insensitive stories.
Great stuff.
seanchai

Ecstatic
03-08-2007, 01:32 AM
Excellent post, Dazzler. Cogent, intelligent, easy reading, to the point: brava.

BigJimSlade
03-08-2007, 04:19 AM
Nice, I am glad to hear Men's Health talking about t-girls and dating. i have loved their magazine for years. And cool that you are being their advisor on the subject.

seanchai
03-08-2007, 06:40 AM
I think she was having a little fun about Men's Health :lol:

seanchai

Wondergirl
03-08-2007, 08:20 AM
Ok let me get this straight.

Men's health is talking about dating transsexuals?

Are you sure?

deadparrot
03-08-2007, 02:13 PM
I think she was using it as an example.

I have a lot of t-girl friends here and to be honest...I don't treat them any differently than a normal girl when i hang around them. I always hang out in public with them...do things normal friends do. It's common sense. I was very ready to introduce the girl i was dating to my parents...but a relationship is a relationship...sometimes it goes bust.

Dabaldone
03-08-2007, 08:17 PM
Now here's a tip for some of you ladies.

Some guys are very comfortable in their preference for TS women. Don't assume that all me are going to treat you like a hooker. I go to the movies, dinner and to the mall with the women I have dated. As deadparrot said, I treat my friends as I see them; as women. I open doors, pull out chairs and stand as they leave the table. All men aren't pigs ladies!!!

MsDazzler
03-09-2007, 01:31 AM
LOL... I think I should clarify matters... It was a joke about being a feature writer for Mens Health.. I just thought I d mention that to add flair to the article. :)

EdNigma696
03-12-2007, 01:59 PM
My first day back from the Middle East and just read your article. Great advice and exactly why I signed up for this list! Thanks!

Tony

kramtime
03-12-2007, 10:10 PM
It is a great read, Ms. Dazzler. Maybe you should submit it, maybe not to Mens Health but some other informative magazine. Oh, what the heck submit to Mens Health.

flombago
03-12-2007, 11:32 PM
The voice of conscience for tgirltalk. I'd be curious to see Seanchai's list from Yum, though I guess its also "common sense". Still, I think it's useful.

Trogdor
03-12-2007, 11:45 PM
:idea: :arrow: An interesting suggestion to the girls is:

You see a fellow you like, go ask him out. :)

syntax
03-13-2007, 01:42 AM
Men's health is talking about dating transsexuals?

Especially if you don't comment on a girls shoes...

then it's very unhealthy to cop a heel to the head for being insensitive

MsDazzler
03-18-2007, 10:15 PM
Also... I strongly recommend that you (if you have not gotten into it or are reluctant or don't like it) start practicing the art of eating ass or rimming. Of course, it has to be clean first, that is a given.

It will make the anus loose and relaxed, which leads to easier and longer peneteration. Also that is one more act you can really make us feel like women, because you are digging down there with your tongues on a hole just like you r eating pussy. :) And we just love having our legs open in that traditional missionary position, locking our legs around the guy's neck urging his tongue deeper.

so just think about it.

I know I love a guy who can tongue fuck me like there is no tomorrow.

Tee hee

Ecstatic
03-19-2007, 01:04 AM
I've got to agree with you, Dazz. I know a couple of girls who go crazy for rimming.

kramtime
03-19-2007, 06:36 PM
Reading Dr. Dazzler's tips on How To Make Love To A TGirl is gonna make me a pro. I can't wait for some hands on applications. And I mean that as a compliment Dazzler. Very informative.

shajay
03-20-2007, 03:52 AM
GREAT TIPS!!!!!!! thx for sharing sweetie

IndyCloset
03-23-2007, 04:21 AM
....I guess I'm ahead of the game then.

To me most of these tips seem like common sense. But then again some people are assholes and not the good kind either.

So you like rimming huh Mizz Dazzler? Well I figured that to......

shajay
03-23-2007, 05:14 AM
I agree Indy but not many people feel the same way I guess.

kiwi.jayne
03-25-2007, 06:04 PM
I've got to agree with you, Dazz. I know a couple of girls who go crazy for rimming.

But honestly, who doesn't like to be rimmed :-D

MsDazzler
03-25-2007, 08:01 PM
you d be surprised.. my best Tgrrfrleind does not really like anal sex or being rimmed... she s all about oral sex

shajay
03-25-2007, 08:09 PM
Well I have rimmed but never been rimmed

Ecstatic
03-25-2007, 08:18 PM
I've got to agree with you, Dazz. I know a couple of girls who go crazy for rimming.

But honestly, who doesn't like to be rimmed :-D
Hey, nice to hear from you, kiwi Jayne! Yes, I do enjoy being rimmed, but what I really enjoy is a girl getting off when I do it to her. That and teabagging are my favorite things (well, other than the obvious, lol).

MsDazzler
03-07-2010, 08:18 PM
Re-reading this after EXACTLY 3 years ago (today is March 7, 2010! LOL)... with a hell lot more dating/hook up experience under my belt...

I'd have to say all the tips still hold true, lol.

orion
03-08-2010, 08:15 AM
hmm try a altoid for the rim lol works pretty well on a girls nips.
dont wear things that smeal nice but have a yuck taste factor.
lotions tend to be yuck to me.
my fave is natural scents on a girl like coconut omg drives me crazy reminds me of the beach.
i think for sex light scents are best suttle ones nothing overpowering.
last thing you want is the guys nose running and snezzing.
i dont think too many girls think of that when they pouring it on.
most of all the strong purfumes too.
and also what you eat before gotta kinda think of that too.
light things are best and NO ONIONS yikes.
plus trans also have hyper scent noses so you wanna be aware of that.
if it hot and hudid or even winter you wanna make sure you wear freash shoes lol yea most people dont get that cause your fav shoes might have there own scent.
years ago i used to have two drinks to take the edge off get there early you know guys kinda do that but last thing you wanna do is be 3 sheets to the wind cause she late lol.
and never write her name on your palm if ur nerverous i guess today us guys are safe with cell phones but i did go a whole date before fogeting her name and had to wing it.
nea did not work nor did the name on my palm.
girls do check they know that one.
i guess it live and learn.

Trogdor
03-14-2010, 08:24 AM
So don't expect all Tgirls to like having anal sex.
In short, just because she might not be a Jewish girl, does not mean she won't think like one.....except for the oral sex bit. Sorry, I could not resist :mrgreen:



Because hair plays a huge role in feminizing the appearance, your perception may be quite ruined if the girl in question has shaved head. LOL
I said it once, and I'll say it again, I dig bald girls. 8)

MsDazzler
03-14-2010, 03:58 PM
bald girls as in scalp-shiny or as in cut really, really short? olol

Trogdor
03-14-2010, 05:22 PM
bald girls as in scalp-shiny or as in cut really, really short? olol

Both. :mrgreen:
So long as they got a nice shaped head, I'll take either. 8)

MsDazzler
03-14-2010, 05:37 PM
What is a nicely-shaped head, anyway? lol

Trogdor
03-14-2010, 06:31 PM
What is a nicely-shaped head, anyway? lol

So they don't have a head shaped like the Gray aliens. :)

blkgsxr
03-15-2010, 02:53 AM
well a trans friend told me to start taking Maca she said after her bf started taking it they had awesome (bumps the bed) so I said ill take it as a test- its about 28.95 for a bottle of Maca Man from GNC and it works ^_^ all natural thing.

kramtime1
03-20-2010, 05:31 PM
I always thought that bald chick in the Star Trek movie was so hot ( Persis Khambatta , now deceased ) Perfect sexy look.

bigdaddy
09-08-2010, 10:38 PM
it seems that all the hot sexy ts's escort. that's how they pay for all their surgeries and lifestyle. my friend has a ts daughter, and he helped pay for some surgeries i think, but i dont think he was paying for all her designer stuff and other surgeries as well. im not even sure that he knows that she escorts since her family rarely ever hears from her. i recently discovered her on all these porn sites and was shocked to see her in that light! lol...now im quite fascinated!

NagaSama
09-08-2010, 11:30 PM
I would love to date, and eventually marry, a Tgirl, but im really scared to go out and try and meet one.

Specially here in San Antonio *cos Texas sucks*

and cos im really kinda the shy, submissive kinda guy around women.

I don't see Tgirls as anything other than a woman with something different tween their legs anyway, dont treat them different than any woman should be treated, and by that, i mean i treat them like the goddesses they are.

men officially suck imo xD, cos we give enuff examples of how shitty we are constantly on the local news ROFL

Trogdor
09-09-2010, 04:55 AM
I always thought that bald chick in the Star Trek movie was so hot ( Persis Khambatta , now deceased ) Perfect sexy look.

There's a good example, Dazzler. :D

EXAMPLE: I shower with a guy. Unwittingly I wrap the towel around my hips rather than my chest. He rags on me for not behaving like a woman in this case.

EXAMPLE #2: My tgrrlfriends, drunk, pee up standing in the alleys, just like guys. When you are drunk, you fall back on your old habits, and when you are drunk, you do things that require least thinking and effort, which standing up is. lol
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TIP #4: CONTINUING THE TIP FROM ABOVE, ALSO DON'T COMPARE THE TGIRL IN QUESTION'S BODY TO A GENETIC WOMAN. YOU WILL NOT BE HAPPY IN THE END, AND IT S POINTLESS AND WILL JUST DEAL A BLOW TO HER EGO.

EXAMPLE: When I was coming out of the bathroom all sexy in stockings, the guy on the couch commented, "You kinda have big shoulders." Totally inappropriate comment at a totally wrong moment.

I'd rather a girl have a towel around the waist than the chest.
I don't mind them peeing standing up.....genetic females peeing always sounded weird, anyhow. :p


Dazzler....is it ok that I like girls with big shoulders? o_o

Trogdor
09-09-2010, 04:58 AM
I would love to date, and eventually marry, a Tgirl, but im really scared to go out and try and meet one.

Specially here in San Antonio *cos Texas sucks*

and cos im really kinda the shy, submissive kinda guy around women.


Michigan probably sucks more, since it's more inland than Texas.....and we all know how hotties tend to avoid non coastal areas like the plague.

I say, you see a girl, take a deep breathe, count to 3, and go for it. Shyness only works for guys in the movies.

NagaSama
09-09-2010, 08:34 AM
last time i went for it


I got a broken nose from the boyfriend that was off getting her a drink

so.....yeah

it was painful, and i was bleeding all over the place

and im not making this up

Trogdor
09-10-2010, 02:19 AM
last time i went for it


I got a broken nose from the boyfriend that was off getting her a drink

so.....yeah

it was painful, and i was bleeding all over the place

and im not making this up

Should have sued him....I'm sure you can nail his ass legally.

Now if it were me, I'd put some of my self defense lessons to use.....you know how easy it as to break or dislocate a person's arm? Though I'd rather attack the sides of the knee. :mrgreen: Plus I would have told the chick, "See what kind of maniac you got here? Next person he attacks might be you, so keep that in mind, mmmkay, lady?"

NagaSama
09-10-2010, 03:19 PM
Well

was kinda my fault

cos i didnt pay attention to the signals she was giving

also, was at a beach, so, should have THOUGHT "who brought her here?"

Trogdor
09-10-2010, 04:14 PM
Well

was kinda my fault

cos i didnt pay attention to the signals she was giving

also, was at a beach, so, should have THOUGHT "who brought her here?"

Naw, sounds more like the boy friend had what I call Tom Lee Syndrome. It's when a dude will attack anyone who merely looks at his chick....named after the time in the mid 1990's when Tommy Lee was getting in the faces of anyone that was checking out Pamela.

MsDazzler
09-11-2010, 04:20 PM
LOL. I wrote this years ago. It made me smile when I read it. I was so naive when I first came into the Tgirl dating scene. sigh.

Trogdor
09-11-2010, 05:43 PM
LOL. I wrote this years ago. It made me smile when I read it. I was so naive when I first came into the Tgirl dating scene. sigh.

Help a Michigan resident find some cute ones. X_x;

NagaSama
09-11-2010, 05:47 PM
Help a San Antonio find one, cute, not so cute, i just want someone loving, who will hold me in her arms, and not stab me in the back, wont leave me in the dark.

im so tired of being alone..

icarus2112
09-12-2010, 05:48 PM
Had to got back to the rimming comment, I usually live by the motto "lick it before I stick it". I love rimming a girl, and if that girl has a dick or pussy, its all good.

NagaSama
09-12-2010, 07:13 PM
All Hail Icarus and his infinite wisdom

Trogdor
09-13-2010, 04:02 AM
All Hail Icarus and his infinite wisdom

Apart from those who do not like pussy.

NagaSama
09-13-2010, 04:38 AM
no, still

all hail him

cos he said,

its all good, dick or pussy

so hes = opportunity

icarus2112
09-13-2010, 10:34 PM
but I will humbly admit "infinite" should not be used to describe any wisdom I have ;)

orion
09-14-2010, 01:16 AM
hmm on the short hair well i think the long hair is way to over done.
i know some short hair hotties.
nothing more sexy then joan of ark......and lesbo sex.
wink!

as for the shinning ....lol please no horror.
last thing i wanna see is that.

i get alot of shit from american girls why i date asian or i am asian only comments.
i am not.
but i will admit like most american women who are fat,lazy wear lil make up and dress like they on welfare alot of girls fall into that catogory.
sorry but it true.
you would not ride the bus in brazil looking bad.

i see alot of scary shit on yahoo over the years.
yahoo has become like chat roluette.
some one will send u a cam invite and say they a hot ts.
then when u open it grrrrr it some fat 55 year old guy in a wig and pantys jacking with hairy chest.

you just dont see asians eating poo or drinking pee or missing half there hair camming ever.

even in the most poor sections of asia you see girls try there best and dress nice.
even with hand me down or our used clothes.
in the usa for some reason you cant teach a women how to dress.

as for reg women there even worse......lol
wearing half tops with there tummy bulging out as they woof down hot wings in a bar looking like there something out of west virgina.

dont belive me.
go to any sports bar.
or a chilis.
it the half ass or the snoky jersy whore bimbo with bad skin skin to match the bad taste.

for me i order out.
lol,

MsDazzler
01-16-2012, 09:13 PM
Wow... reading this thread that I started years ago when I started out crossdressing... I was very naive, lol.

Few years later and 100+ dates, I find this amusing! :)