Transition Priorities

[Arianna]

The first thing I knew that I wanted to do was to get my beard lasered. It was thick, black, and my 5 o'clock shadow was there by noon. Next was starting HRT. What did you girls do first, and what are the things you'll do last. Was there a mental list, based on finances, etc that you approached in any specific order?

[Harajuku Tgirl]

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[Angela_Deren]

Already on an anti-androgen currently.
Working on voice while I save up for laser for my face.
HRT after that, and then we shall see what else I think I need.

[roseofsapphire]

#1. Hormones - I am DIY right now using a lower dose than I need to achieve good results, but I am doctorless and do what I can.

#2. Weight Loss - I have a long ways to go, but I try.

#3. Laser - I'm confident in my ability to shave and grow hair slowly, but still needed.

#4. SRS - I may or may nto go for this one. Dunno what my feelings are on it. I'm pretty sure I can feel complete with out it, but who knows if that will change?

#5 Elective Surgery - Breasts if I do not grow as large as I would like. Lipo to help shape areas and FFS if I really think I need it.

[KaMiLeUnGuRl]

Well lets see, as for what i HAVE done

Well ummm Makeup and shave is all i have for now... I use female body shapers for my body sometimes (when im wearing layers) but if im like wearing a dress, I dont... Ummm lets see... I am what I am and im very femm cause Ive always acted that way anyways... It was hidden by my looks cause i looked really Macho before. But they never knew although i used to always act femminine, which gives me the femininity i have right now.

What i Plan:

Well at the moment im hoping to start hrt from home on my own level, im gonna start off really light then increase as I deem necessary all at the same time getting my bloodwork done to make sure im okay. My future is to actually work on my body Lazer. Ummm Possibly go for the brow shave and hairline. Depends if im satisfied or not after hrt cause i just may be. oh and i dont plan to complete hrt doctorless, just the inital starting ;) Ummm IF there were any surgeries to Make the feet smaller and prettier, id get that done most definitely :D

As for me im happy with my looks right now Aint NO ONE gonna throw me down with YOU STILL LOOK LIKE A MAN and shyt like that, cause i may look like a man but all these guys sure do Drool over it lol (in Person im saying) So atleast my mentality is in a good spot on myself, but i can be bitchy already so hmmm wonder what the mones are gonna do to me

[Arianna]

Thanks for your replies so far ladies. In my own case, as someone who has consistently gone part time over the years, my mannerisms and walk are probably as good as they'll get. I'm hoping that HRT will only compliment them. I have to say that doing drag was a great learning experience in regards to that stuff too; almost like a highly competetive feminity boot-camp. ;) If you suck at something, you will definately hear about it sooner or later from one of the catty queens; many of whom are actually pre-op TS's. I've also worked on my voice in the past and, although I believe it has it's limitations, it's gotten me by so far. From everything I've heard, both hrt and vocal surgery (which many say can be risky) don't do very much, so both are currently non-priorities. After my breasts "peak" ;) from hrt (I've heard about a year), I want implants/augmentation. Beyond that, I'd say it's a 3 way tie: a nose job, the brow/hairline stuff, and redistributing the little bit of tummy I have to my butt. Depending on cash-flow I'd love to get all 3 asap, but such are the realities of life. Trach-shave is low priority, as is jawline work; and that's if I'd even bother doing either. Again, thank you all so much for sharing thus far. :)

[roseofsapphire]

Thanks for your replies so far ladies. In my own case, as someone who has consistently gone part time over the years, my mannerisms and walk are probably as good as they'll get. I'm hoping that HRT will only compliment them. I have to say that doing drag was a great learning experience in regards to that stuff too; almost like a highly competetive feminity boot-camp. ;) If you suck at something, you will definately hear about it sooner or later from one of the catty queens; many of whom are actually pre-op TS's. I've also worked on my voice in the past and, although I believe it has it's limitations, it's gotten me by so far. From everything I've heard, both hrt and vocal surgery (which many say can be risky) don't do very much, so both are currently non-priorities. After my breasts "peak" ;) from hrt (I've heard about a year), I want implants/augmentation. Beyond that, I'd say it's a 3 way tie: a nose job, the brow/hairline stuff, and redistributing the little bit of tummy I have to my butt. Depending on cash-flow I'd love to get all 3 asap, but such are the realities of life. Trach-shave is low priority, as is jawline work; and that's if I'd even bother doing either. Again, thank you all so much for sharing thus far. :)

I've not heard of breasts peaking after a year. It takes a GG 5 to 7 to hit there max usually and some are still seeing slight changes into the early 20's. I have some girlfriends that are still growing 3 or 4 years into hormones and have been on high doctor supervised amounts.

The idea is that if you start early enough, mid 20's or earlier, you should be near to your mother's breast size or 1 cup smaller.

[Arianna]

I've not heard of breasts peaking after a year. It takes a GG 5 to 7 to hit there max usually and some are still seeing slight changes into the early 20's. I have some girlfriends that are still growing 3 or 4 years into hormones and have been on high doctor supervised amounts.

The idea is that if you start early enough, mid 20's or earlier, you should be near to your mother's breast size or 1 cup smaller.
Hmmm. Maybe I'm being too optimistic. Dunno for sure. I've heard that a small C-cup is the most you can hope for, and I do know someone who's already there after 9 monthes with steady shots. My doctor said that the initial growth is the fastest; within 12 to 18 monthes. But he said that after 2 years there is usually very little change, if any, and it's nothing to count on. Maybe he said this because of my age, or because I had naturally low testo levels. I'm not sure tho'. I'm seeing him on Tuesday, and will ask him to clarify this.

[roseofsapphire]

I've not heard of breasts peaking after a year. It takes a GG 5 to 7 to hit there max usually and some are still seeing slight changes into the early 20's. I have some girlfriends that are still growing 3 or 4 years into hormones and have been on high doctor supervised amounts.

The idea is that if you start early enough, mid 20's or earlier, you should be near to your mother's breast size or 1 cup smaller.
Hmmm. Maybe I'm being too optimistic. Dunno for sure. I've heard that a small C-cup is the most you can hope for, and I do know someone who's already there after 9 monthes with steady shots. My doctor said that the initial growth is the fastest; within 12 to 18 monthes. But he said that after 2 years there is usually very little change, if any, and it's nothing to count on. Maybe he said this because of my age, or because I had naturally low testo levels. I'm not sure tho'. I'm seeing him on Tuesday, and will ask him to clarify this.

I'm going to ride the natural route as long as I can. Keep in mind that if you are not getting the optimal doses you might take longer to develop but you will still hit your eventual plateau, it may just take months or years more.

Personally, unless I turn out to be far smaller than I want to be naturally, I will pass on implants.

[Jenna]

For me it was...

Weight loss first-Lost over 80lbs since last year
Voice- Still working on it
Hormones- DIY HRT for now until I could find a good doctor and I have a steady income.
Laser- Recently started laser hair removal on my face
Surgery- I plan to get my hairline lowered, Rhinoplasty and my brow bone shaved
SRS- In 3-5 years

Anything can change in that timeframe but that is what I expect to do regarding my transition.

[WendyWilliams]

I went on hormones first.

Then I had my face, chest and neck lasered and I do touch-ups every 3 months or so ,Im starting my bikini and legs next week.

I had silicone done for my hips and ass.

I had my breast done (implants) three years ago.

I had a nose job in May.

Im having my tummy and love handles lypo in December, as well as my hairline and voice modification surgery all by Dr. Mayer (gias dr.)

Lately Ive become alot more surgery curious, LOL.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

Well here is goes!

First things I did was started hormones- Premarin and Delestrogen shots.

Then I began electrolysis on my face- I am convinced laser does not work as well, espeically on the blonde fine hairs. (I have had laser as well on my face)

Surgically speaking- the first operations I had were my first nose job and I had my ears pinned back.

At the same time I was also working on my body with silicone injections.

Since then I have undergone these surgical procedures-
Hairline Lowered
Two Brow Lifts
Shaving of Brow Bone
Eyelids
Silcone Injections to my cheeks
Temporal Face lift
Two Cheek Lifts
Four other Nose Jobs
Top Lip Lifted
Top Lip reduced
Chin Implant (later removed)
Silicone Injections in my Top Lip
Face Lift
Chin Reconstruction
Jaw Reconstruction
Lipo in My Neck- Two Times
Neck Lift
Almond Shaping of The Eyes
Tracheal Shave
Silcone and Restyline Injections to Nasal-labial lines
Botox
Chemical Peels
Dermabrasion
Four Sets of Breast Implants
Breast Lift
Nipple Reduction
Full Body Lipo
Over 40 silicone treatmesnt to my hips, buttocks, and legs
Permanent Make Up
Electrolysis on Most of My Body

And I am sure I left some stuff out but that is all I can remenber at the moment-

Of ocurse I am still planning more things- basically to fine tune most of the work that has been done thus far.

What I would suggest for anyone who is starting out - the FIRST things that YOU MUST, MUST do is get rid of your facial hair if you have any.
Women do not have beards- they may have no tits, no asses, no hips, big noses , etc- but never a beard. And if u have facial hair- no amount of make up is going to cover it up in the day light.

When I first began my transition, I almost went the wrong way because I was obssesed with doing my body first. Luckily, I had some guidance and worked on the hair. Now- getting rid of the hair will not happen over night.
It takes a long time- but you have to be patient and put the situation under control.

I have often given girls this advice and some had listened others have not.
I know many a pretty girl who looks lovely at night, has implants, but a full beard- or hair on the chest. THAT IS NOT CUTE. Trust me- one of the best feelings you will experience is being able to wake up and go outside without shaving.

[WendyWilliams]

Just reading the list made my body a nd bank account hurt LOL

[Harajuku Tgirl]

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[AllanahStarrNYC]

Thanks sweetie- you are very kind.

With all the money I have spent, I could have definately owned a few homes by now lol- but I think the BEST investement I have ever done is my body.

Some girls are very lucky and have a foundation to work with- I was not and had a lot, a lot of work to do.

It also has to do with your own level of acceptance and what you feel you need to do. I am quite obssesed with the details about my appearance and I think that is more of a personal issue rather than a transformation issue. I have seen gorgoeus girls with very little surgery and gorgeous ones who have had tons or surge.

Let me try to figure this out so I can post some before pics....

can somwone explain to me how to insert an image here please-
im having a blonde moment![/img]

[Arianna]

What I would suggest for anyone who is starting out - the FIRST things that YOU MUST, MUST do is get rid of your facial hair if you have any.
Women do not have beards- they may have no tits, no asses, no hips, big noses , etc- but never a beard. And if u have facial hair- no amount of make up is going to cover it up in the day light.

I have often given girls this advice and some had listened others have not.
I know many a pretty girl who looks lovely at night, has implants, but a full beard- or hair on the chest. THAT IS NOT CUTE. Trust me- one of the best feelings you will experience is being able to wake up and go outside without shaving.Allanah, I totally agree about the beard removal. It makes a dramatic difference. I had very black facial hair, so I've had good results w/ the laser so far. I still have just a few red, blonde and greys that remain, so next will be electrolysis to get rid of them. Beard and losing weight were exactly what I targeted first. Over the past 2 years I've dropped about 80 lbs. Are you familiar with analogous fat transferal? I'm curious about how that compares to Botox and silicone butt injections. They do lipo in one area, and then put your body's own fat cells elsewhere. I definately wanna look into it.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

Congratulations on your weight loss!

I am pleased to hear laser worked for you- but definately the blonde, less colored hairs as you said will have to be treated with electrolysis.

We were just discussing the subject of the augementation of the butt through fat transfer, and one of the girls posted this site- which is really good and the doctors woek seems great


I will have to look for it-

The only problem is that fat does reabosorb- but this guys work looks pretty good, so it is worth to check out.

And if it lasts, it would be much better than having to deal with silicone injections which take a really long time and many sessions to get the shape you want- and of course the whole shady factor behind most of the peopple doing it.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

here you go....

www.betterbuttocks.com

[Arianna]

here you go....

www.betterbuttocks.comThank you so much, Allanah. I've only read articles, but couldn't find an actual surgeon. Very cool! Thanks again. :)

[Angela_Deren]

I was going to call for a laser consiltation last week, but after I finally set an appoitment to see a therapist, I decided I'd wait until that day to call for laser (Tuesday). Anyways, my stupid question is, is it stupid of me to be getting laser done on my face now when testosterone might just create new folicles there? I do currently take 200 mg of Spiro per day, but have no idea what my testosterone levels are until I see an endo (although I'm fairly confident about them being down). Just don't want to waste my money when it costs so much and I plan on at least 4 sessions anyways. Thank you :)

[AllanahStarrNYC]

hmm

baby, i would suggest you get on hormones asap because that will supress testosterone and will work better with the spiro together.

is the hair on your face dark?


are you consulting with a dermatologist or "laser center" or "aesthetician"?

[Arianna]

I was going to call for a laser consiltation last week, but after I finally set an appoitment to see a therapist, I decided I'd wait until that day to call for laser (Tuesday). Anyways, my stupid question is, is it stupid of me to be getting laser done on my face now when testosterone might just create new folicles there? I do currently take 200 mg of Spiro per day, but have no idea what my testosterone levels are until I see an endo (although I'm fairly confident about them being down). Just don't want to waste my money when it costs so much and I plan on at least 4 sessions anyways. Thank you :)Testi-blockers are not going to do very much to your beard, other than maybe soften it and slow down it's growth. Personally, I'd start asap. Laser is an ongoing process that will probably take a good 5 sessions. They have to span each treatment out over a 6-8 week period. After each full session, they have you return in 2 weeks to get a clean up session done. Since the whole process can take about 9 monthes to get the results you're probably looking for, I wouldn't worry about the follicle growth cycles. They take that into consideration. Just keep in mind that laser works best on people with fair skin and dark hair; the darker the follicles, the better the results. The laser naturally makes it's way to where it is finding darker pigments. A blonde beard would need electrolysis. Personally, as Allanah said, I think it's probably your top priority when transitioning. Keep in mind that not all lasers work the same way. My first laser treatment was a painful, patchy nightmare. :oops: I highly recommend the laser used in the link I'll post below. This is where I currently go. I swear by them, and their particular lasers. Hope this helps.
http://www.advancedermatech.com/about.html

[Angela_Deren]

My plans are to start HRT early next year, whether it mean DIY or seeing an endo (preferably the later). Glad to have my first therapist session coming up and hopefully will be able to see an endo relativly soon too, to check my blood levels now. I'm very aware that Spiro does very little (actually nothing) for the beard, although my best friend swears that they have become less concentrated on mine. I went with her for one of her laser sessions recently to watch how it's done and it's at a hair removal center/facial surgery place. Yes, it's dark hair and I have light skin, the lady said I should be great for it, although I hadn't had an offical consitation yet for price, etc. Paying for it all myself right now, but hoping for at least some family support for my 2nd session or else I'm going to have to wait a little longer than the usual 2 month intervals to save up for another one.

[Jenna]

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[AllanahStarrNYC]

The best candidate for laser hair removal is people who have light skin and have dark hair because the laser picks up the pigment on the dark hair.

I have not seen good results on girls who had blond or light colored beards- in fact, the dermatologist I consult with. Dr. Karyn Grossman, who does the Prescriptives Skin care line and introduced the first at home dermabrasion kits that are so popular today- told a few friends I took to her that.

I would HIGHLY recomend that you anyone doing this consult with a dermatologist unless you know someone who has had very favorable results wherever you decide to go.

Remember- there are many, many hair lasers out on the market.

The thing to remember as well, is that your body is always producing hair.
And sometimes, hair folicles remain dorman for weeks, then activate again. That is why ultimately, if laser works for you very well, you will need final clean ups with electrolysis most likely.


By far, electrolysis has the longest and best proven track record of hair removal, since it has been around for about 125 years.

Browse this site- it is EXTREMELY helpful

www.hairfacts.com

[roseofsapphire]

How expensive is this usually? I'm just stunned... I have no idea where I am going to find the money for everything.

[Angela_Deren]

I'm expecting $400 per session for me, with the price dropping a little each time as it did for my friend. Although in more populated areas such as Boston or NYC competition drives the price down apparently. Told I can get it done for $200 per session if I drove to Boston. Yeah, I'll have to ask about which machine they use. Trying to remember how it looked so I can read more about it on the site Arianna provided.

[Arianna]

I'm expecting $400 per session for me, with the price dropping a little each time as it did for my friend. Although in more populated areas such as Boston or NYC competition drives the price down apparently. Told I can get it done for $200 per session if I drove to Boston. Yeah, I'll have to ask about which machine they use. Trying to remember how it looked so I can read more about it on the site Arianna provided. $400 sounds pretty expensive. I pay $200, and that includes a clean up two weeks later. The place I go to is on Madison Ave in Manhatten (definately not a low-rent area), and is very clean and nice. That other jackass I went to the first time charged $150 without the clean up.

[Angela_Deren]

Hmm, maybe I should look around and consider more options on places to get it done. Just wanted to go to this place because it's where my friend goes (good reputation) and it's so close (wouldn't have to drive out just for a consiltation and then again for the actual sessions). $200 less would be worth it.

[Arianna]

Hmm, maybe I should look around and consider more options on places to get it done. Just wanted to go to this place because it's where my friend goes (good reputation) and it's so close (wouldn't have to drive out just for a consiltation and then again for the actual sessions). $200 less would be worth it. How far is NYC from where you are in CT? Buses from all over the country go to the Port Authority Bldg. I take the bus to the Port Authority, and then the subway is right there. From where the uptown E train drops me off (5 minutes), it's a 4 block walk.

[Angela_Deren]

Both Boston and NYC are approx 2 hours from where I live. Used to go to both cities almost every month, but I've cut back on a lot of my extraneous spending within the last year. Plus I'd want a friend to go with me for longer trips.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

hun

if u want to come to nyc and do laser
u can get it done for about 150 in most places for the whole face

[roseofsapphire]

Wow... even $150 is a lot for me. Guess it is going to take me longer than I thought.

[Arianna]

Wow... even $150 is a lot for me. Guess it is going to take me longer than I thought.Electrolysis is usually cheaper per visit, and just as effective. But it is more painful, and it's a slower process.

[KaMiLeUnGuRl]

Wow... even $150 is a lot for me. Guess it is going to take me longer than I thought.

Transitioning aint easy... haha and they say pimpin aint... they should try to transition themself!
Girl this aint no free ride :D dressing and growing hair out and all that natch stuff takes time, transitioning is the part that cost's Look dont expect results tomorrow... think years ahead hunni... Good things come to those who wait :D
Take it slow hunni!

[honeybabie]

As far as myself goes.....I personally thought that hormones and t blocker were the first on my list. A few years after that I had breast implants. For me even though I started when i was young my facial hair still kinda creeped up on me over the years. I know a lot of people are against at home electrolysis for permanent hair removal. But thats what I did. I bought a machine from a beauty supply distributer and I did it myself. It takes a lot of patience, and fortunately on my part I didn't grow " full facial hair" it was heavy more on my upper lip and sideburns. It would take me about two hours. But the results were worth it. And I bought a very nice machine; it ran me approx. 150. They have cheaper ones as few as fourty dollars but I do not recommend them.I haven't had pitting of the skin or orange peel like appearance that sometimes is associated with long term bad electro use but I also kept the dial on the appropriate setting. I'm very satisfied with my overall general appearance. But I have been considering facial feminization surgery with Dr. Ousterhout. He is a fantastic doctor. And his results are amazing. Kinda pricey but well worth it to me. I'm 100% passable now, but for me I would just like to remove those last vestiges of testosterone from myself. After that who knows. Also for anyone who orders their hormones online......inhouse pharmacy is a great source. U get customer discounts after your first purchase, and you meds are delivered in 7-14 days. They also cater to tranzys.

[Arianna]

As far as myself goes.....I personally thought that hormones and t blocker were the first on my list. A few years after that I had breast implants. For me even though I started when i was young my facial hair still kinda creeped up on me over the years. I know a lot of people are against at home electrolysis for permanent hair removal. But thats what I did. I bought a machine from a beauty supply distributer and I did it myself. It takes a lot of patience, and fortunately on my part I didn't grow " full facial hair" it was heavy more on my upper lip and sideburns. It would take me about two hours. But the results were worth it. And I bought a very nice machine; it ran me approx. 150. They have cheaper ones as few as fourty dollars but I do not recommend them.I haven't had pitting of the skin or orange peel like appearance that sometimes is associated with long term bad electro use but I also kept the dial on the appropriate setting. I'm very satisfied with my overall general appearance. But I have been considering facial feminization surgery with Dr. Ousterhout. He is a fantastic doctor. And his results are amazing. Kinda pricey but well worth it to me. I'm 100% passable now, but for me I would just like to remove those last vestiges of testosterone from myself. After that who knows. Also for anyone who orders their hormones online......inhouse pharmacy is a great source. U get customer discounts after your first purchase, and you meds are delivered in 7-14 days. They also cater to tranzys.I'd be careful w/ Dr. Ousterhout because, although he has done great work in the past, there are those who have given negative testimonials. His reputation is very good though.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

Dr. Ousterhout did my jaw and chin and I am deeply dissatisfied.

He is excellent with the brow bone- which I also had done by another surgeon. But Dr. O work left me completley lopsided, asymetrical, and with a lump on the right hand sign of my chin. I had a ct scan to look at what is going inside and it seems like part of the bone work he did eroded away-

I deeply regret having the jaw surgery- It took forever to heal and for the sweeling to go down. I was depressed for months and looked very bad for about three.

I would think about it many times before I would let him do your jaw.
Everything else, I would say OK- but the jaw BEWARE.

[binker1986]

__________________________________________________ __________::+Life,......in the beginning has been a trial,....filled with regrest's failures,...losts,...and depression+::_ -::First Off,.....For whom it may concern ""I'm a CrossDresser w/vison of Gender Changing"",...For any of those who have trouble understanding,....I've been a guy for about 19 yrs w/ the name of ""+:JOEL Ephriam:+""((which means in hebrew out of sorrow ""God"" has given me joy)). For yrs, I have lived in the male world,....and done as they do. Now,...however I have taken the liberty of beginning a whole new life in the form of a girl named ""Veronica"" dedicated to the death of my long lost sister +::Sarah Strieter::+. This does not mean I am gay,....nor bi or anything of the sort,....(""which is very common with other CD's and Transvestites""(((***men whom have had changes to become there true selves""WOMAN""***)))...""). I However have the unique vison of starting new and fresh in a world that is not always so Excepting nor Loving. Crossdress/Gender Changing(becoming a ""Transvestite"") means to::***(dress as the opposite sex+ Transvestite is to become and live as a "GIRL" dressing,...acting, looking,..loving and embracing a unique+newly found life style)***.. Well,....this is what I dremt of since an early age. Although not always so simple growing up in a ""Christian Bible Belted Lifestyle"" for 19 yrs of my life,...it has always been somthing that has made me alive,....free,..and comfterbale with myself. For yrs,...I have hid in shame,...guilt,...oppression deciet and loathing stages. Now However due to previous Circumstances,...I have kindled a flame inside and have begun to grow the wings to fly and ""SOAR"" in a freedom ""few"" only have dreamt to experince. Life seems so much simpler when U are who u belive u are,...((""Quite the Contrary"")). Being male for the first yrs of my life has been amazing,...and filled with Radical times,.....but ""It""just could not compare to the Liberty or Authenticity of the genuine love,...care free spirit and embrace that the ""Female World"" can provide ""Not to Mean that it is not geniune vise versa,..but to say it's who""I AM"". Getting into the whole mix of the feminine world has been a "Great" challenge and filled with Hard knocks,...Oppostion, and dramatic ridicule ((that will continue)); but if the world were to end on any given day,...I'd say it would be safe for me to be who I love to be ""Woman"". I have taken the Liberty of beginning to ""ERASE"" all past knowledge of birth gender and past,....Now I Live to face a new and brighter day,...ready to live the Adventure .




P.S.: If anyone can offer and give me some awsome advice that'd get me ont the go I'd very much apperciate it....

[binker1986]

__________________________________________________ __________::+Life,......in the beginning has been a trial,....filled with regrest's failures,...losts,...and depression+::_ -::First Off,.....For whom it may concern ""I'm a CrossDresser w/vison of Gender Changing"",...For any of those who have trouble understanding,....I've been a guy for about 19 yrs w/ the name of ""+:JOEL Ephriam:+""((which means in hebrew out of sorrow ""God"" has given me joy)). For yrs, I have lived in the male world,....and done as they do. Now,...however I have taken the liberty of beginning a whole new life in the form of a girl named ""Veronica"" dedicated to the death of my long lost sister +::Sarah Strieter::+. This does not mean I am gay,....nor bi or anything of the sort,....However I have the unique vison of starting new and fresh in a world that is not always so Excepting nor Loving. Crossdress/Gender Changing(becoming a ""Transvestite"") means to::***(dress as the opposite sex+ Transvestite is to become and live as a "GIRL" dressing,...acting, looking,..loving and embracing a unique+newly found life style)***.. Well,....this is what I dremt of since an early age. Although not always so simple growing up in a ""Christian Bible Belted Lifestyle"" for 19 yrs of my life,...it has always been somthing that has made me alive,....free,..and comfterbale with myself. For yrs,...I have hid in shame,...guilt,...oppression deciet and loathing stages. Now However due to previous Circumstances,...I have kindled a flame inside and have begun to grow the wings to fly and ""SOAR"" in a freedom ""few"" only have dreamt to experince. Life seems so much simpler when U are who u belive u are,...((""Quite the Contrary"")). Being male for the first yrs of my life has been amazing,...and filled with Radical times,.....but ""It""just could not compare to the Liberty or Authenticity of the genuine love,...care free spirit and embrace that the ""Female World"" can provide ""Not to Mean that it is not geniune vise versa,..but to say it's who""I AM"". Getting into the whole mix of the feminine world has been a "Great" challenge and filled with Hard knocks,...Oppostion, and dramatic ridicule ((that will continue)); but if the world were to end on any given day,...I'd say it would be safe for me to be who I love to be ""Woman"". I have taken the Liberty of beginning to ""ERASE"" all past knowledge of birth gender and past,....Now I Live to face a new and brighter day,...ready to live the Adventure .




P.S.: If anyone can offer and give me some awsome advice that'd get me ont the go I'd very much apperciate it....

[Ecstatic]

Following is extracted from a posting at Allenina's Yahoo Group which I thought might be of interest to some here.

Medical Therapy and Health Maintenance for Transgender Men: A Guide For Health Care Providers

R. Nick Gorton MD, Jamie Buth MD, and Dean Spade Esq

This book was originally written in Open Office (version 1.1.1). It has been exported to both Adobe Acrobat and MicroSoft Word format. This book is copylefted. This means it is provided free under the GNU Free Documentation License - it is free as in free speech, not free as in beer. You may may copy it, print it, give it to friends, host it on your website, and sell copies of the book or disk. You can even modify it and distribute it in modified form (as long as you indicate that it is a modified work and as long as the derivative work is available under the same free license.)

While this book is free to use, it wasn't free to make. Significant effort went into its production. If you find it valuable, please consider making a donation to either Lyon-Martin Women's Health Services www.lyon-martin.org (where I work) or the Sylvia Rivera Law Project www.srlp.org (where Dean Spade works.)

Future editions of this are planned. Check back here to find out when the second edition will be released. Comments, suggestions, and questions are welcome. You can email me at nickgorton @ gmail.com.

Nick Gorton - 9/15/2005

http://www.nickgorton.org/

Open Office Version: Medical Therapy and HM for Transgender Men_2005.sxw

PDF Version: Medical Therapy and HM for Transgender Men_2005.pdf

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ISBN 0-9773250-0-8

[honeybabie]

My main concern with myself facial wise is my brow bossing. I'm not a big fan of his noses really, but I love his brow work. I would like to think that my jaw structure is feminine now, so I can't say(at least for now) if I'll have that done. Does anyone know of any other doctors besides the ones that advertise or are know to do ffs that do forehead work that is honestly comparable to Dr. O's that you would recommend or consider as an alternative to him?

[Kiely_Marie]

hun

if u want to come to nyc and do laser
u can get it done for about 150 in most places for the whole face

Hey Allanah, Well i live in NYC as well and am looking to get laser done on my face - Is there any place in particular you reccomend?