Homophobic Guys?

[MsDazzler]

I mentioned what open minded straight guys are in my another thread. So with that kind of group in mind, is it possible for them to be surprised, and even like you, but still be homophobic?

[Ecstatic]

Oh, yeah. Which means they aren't as open-minded as they think they are....

[Arianna]

I mentioned what open minded straight guys are in my another thread. So with that kind of group in mind, is it possible for them to be surprised, and even like you, but still be homophobic? I would say that anyone who's homophobic, unless they're in prison and are in fear of rape, is actually just insecure. They're probably just worried that they will learn something about themselves; that they're "gay". Someone living in denial about their own sexuality is, in my opinion, potentially dangerous. I don't really like the typical "gay scene" at all, but I am certainly not homophobic. Why can't people accept that gay people are not typically trying to convert others? What's wrong with "live and let live"? Only because I've been harshly rejected by gay men - ones who I wasn't even sexually interested in - will I sometimes throw around words like "fag" in a derogatory way. But I honestly don't give a shit who is fucking who. The world would be a much better place if everyone got laid the way they'd like to. It's social pressure that makes these guys feel inadequate, and that they're "being a homo". If they're insecure, they'll buy into that and worry about it.

[slayerpsp]

you guys all saw american beauty right the nextdoor neighbor couldnt deal with anyone knowing he was gay and looked what he did.sure its a movie but those kind of homophobic people are the worst

[MsDazzler]

I meant, is it possible for a Tgirl lover to be homophobic? Becuz I know some guys who wanted me but refused to hang out with me at gay clubs or socialize with my gay friends.

[slayerpsp]

I meant, is it possible for a Tgirl lover to be homophobic? Becuz I know some guys who wanted me but refused to hang out with me at gay clubs or socialize with my gay friends. ok its possible becuse i wouldnt go to a gay bar its not my scene i dont want to be around a bunch of gay guys if they are the real flaming type but if they just act normal thats fine i have no problem i just dont like the over the top gays you see on tv like will and grace that guy bugs way too much if they were like him i couldnt be around that. for me it just comes down to the people if its a gay bar and there are also some ts there it would be eaiser i wouldnt go to a gay bar alone becuse thats not what im into

[hhat]

I meant, is it possible for a Tgirl lover to be homophobic? Becuz I know some guys who wanted me but refused to hang out with me at gay clubs or socialize with my gay friends.

Sure I think that makes alot of sense. If the guy really see's you as a woman then he can't deal with a scene he isn't comfortable with (in particular if he's doing a mental loop over they type of woman you are). Why he see's you as a woman just complicates things....if he is coming to grips with a new form of sexual expression that is connected to that, then being in a place that just screams a different form of sexuality is sort of like a recently deflowerred virgin in an orgy. Some would be cool with it some not.

Of course he could just be a potatoe head. Never good to forget that option. I guess the best question might be if the guy is comfortable out with you in other places????

[Arianna]

I meant, is it possible for a Tgirl lover to be homophobic? Becuz I know some guys who wanted me but refused to hang out with me at gay clubs or socialize with my gay friends.

Anyone can be homophobic, even gay people. I know timid gay guys that can't deal with any of the flaming "fierceness". :wink: Is he afraid that someone is gonna kiss him, or that homosexuality is contagious? My attitude would be, "Trust me, trust my friends." You're not taking him to a leather-boy fisting party, right? :wink: So what's the big deal? It's probably just all too foreign and new to him. But if you feel he's worth it, maybe he deserves that respect.

a guy can only have that homophic reaction,if he was new to the tgirl world,guys know what they want from a young age or some maybe have later development liking tgirls,but depending on each individual tgirl we have diffrent experiences, with these guys diffent reactions. girls that are prettier and passable would be diffrent compare to one whos not so passble,mainly the homophopic ones tend to dislikes those unpassable manly looking ones i recon...

oops i forgot to mention first timers tend to have guilt trips,you can almost tell who are new to this and who aint guys with lots of confident and are relax being with you tend to have more experience...compare to first timers some first timers you gota be carefull with

[trannyfalker]

i don't think im homophobic...well actually it depends on the level of gayness

[Hugh Jarrod]

Well homophobic means afraid of homosexuals, so this I am not. However the homosexuals who feed the stereotype that the religious right keys on and uses as the example of the "norm" in gay culture, tend to upset some homosexuals I know. As well many of the "stereotypical" gays or extreme flamming homos as someone called them I find to be petty. The put people down, insult their taste, how they dress, etc. I find that annoying. Not all do, however an overwelming number do. I consider myself open minded but generally don't like gay "culture", I guess the point is like all groups there are some I like and some I don't. That doesn't make someone homophobic, maybe I missed the point.

[Ecstatic]

Actually, homophobia is fear of homosexuality, not of homosexuals, and is often really the fear (which may well be subconsious) of finding out that one is homosexual. You might be 6'5" and play offense for the Patriots, and therefore not likely to be afraid of homosexuals, but still harbor a deep-rooted fear of homosexuality or of discovering that you have homosexual leanings yourself.

[MsDazzler]

so being homophobic but being attracted to Tgirls is a paradox? Does it speak of something deeper?

[Ecstatic]

MsDazzler, you just said a mouthful. I think there's a river in Africa by that name, umm, what's it called, De Nile? :twisted:

[DessiLu]

most str8 guys I meet don't care when I tell them what I am.

:lol: @ ecstatic

trannyfalker you are goddammed cute

[trannyfalker]

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[Harajuku Tgirl]

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[MsDazzler]

LOL.... I know that I would want my future man to be accepting of ALL lifestyles, that includes socializing with my gay friends becaus eI have many wonderful gay friends... and I am not going to tolerate any homohpobia or snide remarks by any man towards my friends.

Men go, friends stay!!!

[Hugh Jarrod]

most str8 guys I meet don't care when I tell them what I am.

I "DITTO" that Dessilu! LOL :wink:

~Kisses.

HTG

That's because you and DessiLu are so damned gorgeous sweetie.

[Châteauroux]

Actually, homophobia is fear of homosexuality, not of homosexuals, and is often really the fear (which may well be subconsious) of finding out that one is homosexual. You might be 6'5" and play offense for the Patriots, and therefore not likely to be afraid of homosexuals, but still harbor a deep-rooted fear of homosexuality or of discovering that you have homosexual leanings yourself.

I've been on a few boards in the last couple of years and I must say that lots of guys do state that they find homosexual sex disgusting though. To each his own and I have no reason to believe that they're not being sincere; it's a forum and if someone wants to give his opinion, I will respect that opinion to be his; of course it depends on the contents of the opinion if I actually agree with it.

That said, when I took my first steps in shemale land, I figured that most shemale lovers, would be more openminded to guys who have no objection to be passive and like to give blowjobs besides getting them.
Of course that was a wrong generalization, because I never thought of other reasons why a man could be attracted to transsexuals or at least transsexual porn. Now I know that every man is unique and has his own preferences.

However, I must say that I'll never quite understand why there is such a thing as homophobia (in the sense of being repulsed by it and not just something that doesn't turn you on) or the need of the statement that you don't like homosexual sex when someone is not asking you about it. Ecstatic said it might be cause of the fear that they are gay themselves or have 'gay symptoms'. I can go along with that. Insecurity, in whichever kind of degree. That in itself is not necessarily wrong, but it doesn't have to involve the bashing of any kind of thing - as we all know sheer bashing rarely satisfies.

As for my personal insecurity, I hope that nobody sees this as an attack at him/her, cause it was aimed at no one. Just wanted to slip in my 2 cents.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

In my opinion- some, not all men who are into transsexuals display traits of homophobia because they themselves are afraid of being identified as gay for liking transsexuals.

An irrational fear of homosexuality, which is what homophobia is, usually comes from a person who somehow has issues with himself-not necesseraly his sexuality- but it has been my experience that when a person usually degrades, or puts down someone because of what they are usually does so out of some sort of insercuity or issues with themselves. Ir seems to be a double standard as well, which I totally do not understand- men can accept two women together but not two men.

These traits can often be observed in men who like transsexuals as well.
Sometimes they will treat us a certain way or purely objectify us as sexual objects because deep down inside they do not like themselves for having this attraction and they bring out those negative feelings on us. Same goes for women as well.

I have high esteem for everyone-and have many wonderful gay friends, including my assistant Tommy, who is as gay as one can be.

I do find it a bit hypocritcal when a man who is "open minded" to an alternative lifestyle such as ours, is homophobic.

I feel the same way about homophobia as I do about racism, sexism, and tranphobia-IT IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG.

[shyguy31]

Yup If you in chat rooms or in general their are guys that don't mind Ts women but hate the hell out of lesbians and studs.

[jesse301ts]

I would have to say that as a queer TS, I've found that most guys can't handle the fact that even though I've transitioned to this point, I want to keep my weenie, enjoy the affects of orgasm reached though it to much to chance loosing that feeling.

I'm currently in a long term relationship with a guy that identifies as straight, mind you I'm the only bottom in the relationship, and he doesn't play with my weenie except when he's inside me.

I only get hard when bottoming, it's very rare that it happens on it's own.

My 2 cents! Jesse

[JohnnyPaycheck]

,,god bless yuh,, Jesse301ts,, hahahaah.

[MsDazzler]

LOL.... I know that I would want my future man to be accepting of ALL lifestyles, that includes socializing with my gay friends becaus eI have many wonderful gay friends... and I am not going to tolerate any homohpobia or snide remarks by any man towards my friends.

Men go, friends stay!!!

aint that true! six years later still true!