GROOBY MODEL SEARCH 2006

[seanchai]

Hi I hope Moni doesn't mind me posting my new model search letter below, we were lucky enough a few years ago to show the first ever shoots of her online.

We're looking for new TS models everywhere.

"Hi
We're the world's leading producer of transgender erotica and have the
longest running and most successful transsexual adult site on the internet, Shemale Yum. Our other websites include:
Black-TGirls.com
Ladyboy-Ladyboy.com
Franks-Tgirlworld.com
Brazilian-Transsexuals.com
Joey-Silvera.com

We also run a very successful series of DVD's including Buddy Wood and Tony Vee titles.

I saw your photos and information and I'm contacting you to see if you have any interest in the potential of doing
modelling work for our websites?
We can offer you;
Very competitive rates of pay.
Excellent exposure with the potential to work with other websites/producers we're partners with.
A lifetime complimentary advertisement showing your contact details on the websites and real-tgirls.com, this is only available to models who have worked with us.
On going work - most models typically work with us a number of times including multiple website and DVD work.

If you've never tried doing this but have an interest then how about giving it go? If you're an experienced model yet haven't worked with us, why not?
We work with the largest names in the business and were the website that first give stars like Vo D'Balm, Allanah Starr, Wendy Williams, Lisa Kage and many
more their first modelling breaks.

We're looking for transgendered models of all types, all shapes and sizes and all ethnic backgrounds. Ideally we look for transsexuals with some hormone breast development or augmentation
but we're also interested in very passable TV/CD's especially in the 18-30 range.

I apologise if you've received this email before or have no interest in modelling but please take it as a compliment that we'd love to work with you.

We currently have photographers ready to shoot you in NYC, Florida, California, Hawaii, Las Vegas and Canada - however, we also do travel to all US cities for shoots and also may be interested in paying your travel expenses to have you come to us.

If you do have an interest please contact me at admin@grooby.com

regards
Steven
Grooby Productions
http://www.grooby.com"

[JB]

seanchai no offense but i think you use these poor girls there should be some kind of place where these girls can get finiacial help without being used like the way you and other companies do. I wish other girls can be like our monica and find other ventures without relying on leechers like you too take advantage of them.

[NoOne]

I understand what you are saying and to a certain extent I agree BUT I can say firsthand that SeanChai treated me very well and paid me very well.

It's nice that you want better for us girls though.

[JB]

I understand what you are saying and to a certain extent I agree BUT I can say firsthand that SeanChai treated me very well and paid me very well.

It's nice that you want better for us girls though.

Its just sad that you girls have no other choice but to do these sites for money when most of you are smart as hell and can do other things that don't require you to sign your life over for a few pictures.

[seanchai]

seanchai no offense but i think you use these poor girls there should be some kind of place where these girls can get finiacial help without being used like the way you and other companies do. I wish other girls can be like our monica and find other ventures without relying on leechers like you too take advantage of them.

Why would you say "no offense" and then call me a leecher?

I've never used or taken advantage of any model - we pay them good rates for modelling and/or performing with us. I fail to see why they should get "financial help", people are capable of doing jobs and I know many transgenders working in many different sectors of society from working in banks, to nurses, to business owners, to facial aesthetics and to working in the porn business.

Just exactly what are you doing and why do you condescend to calling them "poor" girls?

seanchai

[seanchai]

Its just sad that you girls have no other choice but to do these sites for money when most of you are smart as hell and can do other things that don't require you to sign your life over for a few pictures.

Transgenders are like any other cross-section of society, some are smart and most aren't but they all have choices. Those who choose to model do so because that's the right choice for them at that time. I don't see ANYONE signing their life over?
Seems like you have some other agenda than simply being outraged about the adult business?
seanchai

Poor girls was a bad choice for words i probably should have said innocent girls, my problem with you is that you probably make tons of money off these girls and could care less about them same for any companies out there not just you. Instead of using these girls why not help them tell them about life or help them into college instead of trying to milk them.There should be options for these women. You might pay good rates but are you really helping the girls??? These girls are special and you know that some cant go out and get jobs like any other person and there last resort shouldn't be what your offering them.

That was my post above

[MacShreach]

MAKES THOUSANDS OFF OF THEM AFTER HE ONLY PAYS THEM A FEW HUNDRED.

It's called capitalism, nitwit.

[MacShreach]

But then of course, you don't exist. Now here's a conundrum. Since you don't exist, and are merely a figment of Xtian mythology, is it possible to debate with you? Why no....in fact, since you don't exist, I am not even actually talking to you. :-D

Go on, give it your best shot, idiot. I mean you are pretty funny sometimes. Most of you Xtian headbanger types are, just like the Islamic ones and the Jewish ones-- I mean, you're all the same anyway.

[JB]

But then of course, you don't exist. Now here's a conundrum. Since you don't exist, and are merely a figment of Xtian mythology, is it possible to debate with you? Why no....in fact, since you don't exist, I am not even actually talking to you. :-D

Go on, give it your best shot, idiot. I mean you are pretty funny sometimes. Most of you Xtian headbanger types are, just like the Islamic ones and the Jewish ones-- I mean, you're all the same anyway.

I'm glad you find these whole thing funny mac guy simple fact is these companies dont give a shit about these girls and from your post you feel the same way. You guys are sickening you'd rather make fun of the whole sitiution them try to throw suggestions to the girls tp help them oh but wait you are probably one of those guys who doesnt give a shit about the girls as long as you can jerk off to your transsexual porn your ok. Go to hell you loser and seanchai try helping the girls instead of using them.

[MacShreach]

But then of course, you don't exist. Now here's a conundrum. Since you don't exist, and are merely a figment of Xtian mythology, is it possible to debate with you? Why no....in fact, since you don't exist, I am not even actually talking to you. :-D

Go on, give it your best shot, idiot. I mean you are pretty funny sometimes. Most of you Xtian headbanger types are, just like the Islamic ones and the Jewish ones-- I mean, you're all the same anyway.

I'm glad you find these whole thing funny mac guy simple fact is these companies dont give a shit about these girls and from your post you feel the same way. You guys are sickening you'd rather make fun of the whole sitiution them try to throw suggestions to the girls tp help them oh but wait you are probably one of those guys who doesnt give a shit about the girls as long as you can jerk off to your transsexual porn your ok. Go to hell you loser and seanchai try helping the girls instead of using them.

Actually I was addressing the Devil. Unless you and he are one? Anyway since you have decided to have a go at me, Seanchai's reputation is that he pays fairly and on time. Everybody has priorities in life. It is great to see girls like Moni building their own businesses but not everyone can be like her, and not everyone who could, wants to. People like Seanchai offer employment for money. I presume the girls who work for him have thought about what they're doing and have freely decided that it is what they want to do.

They are all of an age to make such decisions, so who the hell are you to say different? Another pompous, Bible-thumping Xtian bigot who believes he has the right to decide how other people should live? Shall we remind you of the toll of death, war and horror which the Xtians are directly and solely responsible for? Peace on earth my arse.

And before you start, I am completely sympathetic to people's right to worship their own gods in peace, but monotheistic zealots, particularly Xtian/Muslim/Jewish ones, do stretch my patience.

Since there is no hell I don't think I quite follow your directions, and I assure you, my boy, a loser I ain't.

[seanchai]

Well I don't think I could ever argue against such illuminated people like JB and Satan who seem to have signed up on this forum purely to preach.

JB - what exactly do you do to help these "innocent girls"? Which colleges do you advise them to go to, what career advise do you give.
Your the joke here, man.

You're eager to point the finger and flex your muscle to stick up for a group of individuals whom you've probably never met, in order to ingratiate yourself to them for the hope that one of them pays you attention but you don't state what you do to help?

At least we pay good wages, we work with the models over years, we help promote their own businesses, we keep a dialogue open with transgenders in the adult business like Monica, Allanah, Wendy, Joanna Jet, Gia Darling, etc., we advocate health care and safe sex, we give a good portion of our yearly profits to Amnesty & the Red Cross, we do appeals on the websites for members to do the same, we give a forum for models/adult actresses to put their views across, we present the adult industry in a fair light including working to ensure that transgender models get the same showcase and treatment as other genders in the industry.
Yes we make a business out of it and we do well from it - as do the majority of the girls who've worked with us, you need to take your fantasies of some poor little innocent trannie getting used and abused by some corporation and go out in the real world.

It's all very well to sit back and criticise and whine and cry ... yet you are doing exactly what, to better transgenders in society?
Furthermore, I didn't see any transgenders, including the lovely Moni, feel the need to decry what we do - so what made you feel you had the need to stand up and fight the cause, your ego?
Put up - or shut the fuck up.

seanchai

i have to agree with seanchai,just because you have a degree under your belt even as a tgirl..they only need to find out you were born a male,through birthcertificate and if the employer is against that then there goes your 5 year university course in the drain.....i think its best to take every opportunity you can and if i could only be brave enough to get naked infront of a camera for millions of people to see then i would definately do it.

[kellylicious23]

I understand what you are saying and to a certain extent I agree BUT I can say firsthand that SeanChai treated me very well and paid me very well.

It's nice that you want better for us girls though.

Its just sad that you girls have no other choice but to do these sites for money when most of you are smart as hell and can do other things that don't require you to sign your life over for a few pictures. Noone is making the decision for them, They made their own decision so I don't get how he is using them. I really hate when I hear girls say Omg I didn't mean to pose nude for a magizine or website lol

[Ecstatic]

Is seanchai making money by selling website subscriptions and DVD's? Of course he is. Anyone who is a capitalist, who earns money through free trade, does the same. While we've never met in person, I have corresponded with seanchai in fora and email for years, and I have always found him to be fair and honorable. I know girls who have posed for his sites and were and are very happy with their choice and pay; in fact, in most cases the exposure they got was far more valuable to them than the pay. I also know girls who have been approached by seanchai or one of his photographers to pose for SMY or another site and turned them down, not wanting to put themselves out there that way. None of them have told me of any negativity or lack of professionalism, but instead there was respect for the girl.

It sounds, JB, like you would rather seanchai were some kind of super sugardaddy, freely spending his money to put girls through college and take care of them financially, to help them get ahead in life. Let me tell you, even if he were rich enough to do so, that's no better and is often worse for a girl. A sugar daddy isn't the answer. Fair pay for modeling work is part of the answer for some (cf. Moni, Wendy, Allanah and others who got their first breaks on sites like SMY), and treating girls with respect whether they choose to model or not is part of the answer for all.

[WillowQueen]

I posed for shemaleyum (and other websites). In fact I'd do it again. The problem with e-mailing you is... well apaprently they don't want to respond to me. I wrote an e-mail to them a few months back. And not a word. Thanks.

[WendyWilliams]

First let me say Shemaleyum would be the last company I would worry about taking advantage of "us" girls. How about all the companies who shoot solely in Brazel, Asia, etcc who dont care about testing, their models or paying them well. How about you go advocate for them for once! Grooby Productions pays their models the rate that is going here in America. I have a Bachelors Degree in Marketing and Communications from E.K.U, I am far from needy or so stupid that I was taken advantage of. It really upsets me that you think that some of these girls are so stupid that they cant make intelligent and or logical decisions regarding whether to pose or not.


Even after my success Seanchai has continued open line of discussion in fact it was Seanchai who helped me get my contacts to start my own company which is direct competition to him so if he doesnt care about his girls why would he help me succeed after working for him. Also anytime I or others need advice, contacts, or someone to bitch too he has been there for me 100% and I havent modeld for yum in 2 years so you see my dear he isnt using anyone but only bringing our unique beauty to dvd and the internet. We as models have the choice whether to accept the money or not.



Wendy

I posed for shemaleyum (and other websites). In fact I'd do it again. The problem with e-mailing you is... well apaprently they don't want to respond to me. I wrote an e-mail to them a few months back. And not a word. Thanks.

??? Drop me an email at admin@grooby.com or if that comes back bad - swg@hawaii.rr.com is my personal one.
Thanks
seanchai

[Ecstatic]

From a different perspective, allow me to echo what Wendy said: when I signed on as webmaster for thailandladyboy.com (granted, a very small site--though we hope to grow, and we do treat our Thai models very well), seanchai and I exchanged many notes and he offerred some excellent advice which I did my best to follow (or at least consider). I don't doubt that there are ripoffs in this industry, but seanchai isn't one of them.

[Ecstatic]

Moni has given him his one-second warning. We're watching.

[JB]

Satan thats wasn't really call wendy is a beautiful women so please shut up and go back to hell.Ecstatic,wendy and seanchai profit off these girls so of course you are going to agree with each other,again im gonna say it there should be other options for these girls to make money.

[WendyWilliams]

Sweetie hating on me is hillarious and yes Ive gained a few pounds but what you dont realize is my avator pic was taken in May so its only 2 months but its all good Ihave lypo July 6th so Ill make sure and let you knwo so you can work on something else to hate me on.


Now back to my double whopper with cheese

::shakes head:::

[Ecstatic]

Profit? You ought to talk to my accountant. I'd like to see some profit.

There are other options, many other options, and many of the girls posting here pursue them.

[LeoraMoore]

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[Chicago Guy]

JB, you are being ridiculous. First off, why are you segmenting out T girls? Everyone has the same rights, and opportunities (given you live in a free country) no matter gender, race, religion, etc.

Second, no one is making girls pose for his website. They obviously CHOOSE to make the decision which is right for them at that point in their life.

[flombago]

I agree that if someone is an adult of sound mind (i.e. not technically crazy) she/he has both the freedom and the responsiblity for posing on an adult web site. I would only just like to suggest a "sunset clause" to any contract. I mean, if a naive 18 y.o. poses nude, she should have the possibility to delete the pictures after some number of years (e.g. 5 or 10 years) because her life situation may change, making such history embarassing. A contract might read: "We pay you $XXX for the rights to your pictures for NNN years, after which you have the option to delete them", and assuming the copyright was not infringed they would be permanently deleted from the internet. Maybe its already done that way ? I'm guessing a few percent of the models might exercise the option to delete.

[LeoraMoore]

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[christoronto]

it's about free will, you don't have to show your body if you don't want to...

[travelling_fun_male]

Profit? You ought to talk to my accountant. I'd like to see some profit.

There are other options, many other options, and many of the girls posting here pursue them.

So its not all fame and glory up there in TLB webmaster land, Ecstatic? 8)

[MsDazzler]

I have thought about doing it but I need to lose some weight first. teehee. plus go on HRT first.

[seanchai]

Dazzler you don't have to do anything baby.
You're gorgeous and we'd love to have you on the website. I love looking at your photos.
seanchai

[Ecstatic]

Profit? You ought to talk to my accountant. I'd like to see some profit.

There are other options, many other options, and many of the girls posting here pursue them.

So its not all fame and glory up there in TLB webmaster land, Ecstatic? 8)
Hardly! Don't I wish...all the babes I want, at my beck and call, tons of money rolling in...yeah, right. But it pays for the pizza....