brave men vs closet case...which do you prefer?

are closet guys giving us the respect we deserve or do they think transgenders are losers?

[Jordan]

Brave men, definitely,The closet ones sure if they are paying, trust me it sucks to be thought of as a novelty, so a MAN that is secure and knows what he wants will fare far better than the closet, curious, thrill seeker!! anyways my two cents on this topic.

[Harajuku Tgirl]

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[Hugh Jarrod]

Hmmmm I don't like men.

[Arianna]

I love the brave men, all the way! The closet cases are only good for one thing. ;)

[romeo]

Hmmmm I don't like men.

:lol: :lol: ....me too

[Scott]

Hmmmm I don't like men.

:lol: :lol: ....me too

Just a guess guys but I think this was aimed at the ladies. lol

Scott

[KaMiLeUnGuRl]

Well it seems the guys are participating atleast..... First off id like to say im in a relationship with a VERY accepting mother....he dont care too much what his dad thinks lol... Um everyone knows where i come from and who i am...(i used to get paranoid when hed bring friends over without saying anything to them about me and here i am cooking without any make up :oops: Anyways my relationships must be OPEN and STATED and be PROUD of me! hmmmmm...

Something for the men to answer instead of saying you are not into men LoL Although it was funny.... Are you Open or in the closet? would you Parade your woman around town hand in hand no problem or have her following in your steps ten feet behind???

[Scott]

I'm a very open guy. My family knows my feelings on transgender women and so do my close friends.
I would proudly go anywhere, be seen anywhere with that special lady and be holding her hand the whole time (if she let me lol).
Life is too short to deny one's self happiness.


Scott :D

would you Parade your woman around town hand in hand no problem or have her following in your steps ten feet behind???

well it never happened to me.....but love is love....and if I love someone I can't be ashamed of her (the same thing is applicabile for friends)

[romeo]

Damned login!!! LOL :lol:
The reply above is mine

[Ecstatic]

Well, for me being married complicates the issue somewhat: my wife is well aware and supportive of my occasionally hooking up with tgirl sexually, and has even met my best tgirl friend over dinner in a restaurant (they got along fabulously). However, knowing that many friends and most family would not understand or accept this (a combination of, first, extramarital sex, and second, what most would see as gay sex), we have decided to not tell family and most friends about my, umm, liaisons (though there are a few friends who do know).

However, some members of my family and many of my friends know that I am bisexual, and that I have transgendered friends. Most of them sincerely want to know more about what it is to be transgendered, as there is so little good information in the general media, and I think this helps, in a small way, to foster acceptance and understanding.

One on one with a tgirl, I am quite comfortable and have often gone out to dinner, shopping, or otherwise been in public with a TS friend. If I were single and met the "right" tgirl, you'd best believe I would be open about it.

[MsDazzler]

are closet guys giving us the respect we deserve or do they think transgenders are losers?

This relates to my other thread "TRANS LOVERS VS OPEN MINDED GUYS".... it s trans lovers that tend to worry more than open minded guys. Trans lovers have tgirls on their minds all the time, so,.... they are so worried about their families or friends finding out. From my experience, dating open minded guys usually fares better because they are already like "so what? fuck them, I know I like YOU."

[Quinn]

my wife is well aware and supportive of my occasionally hooking up with tgirl sexually, and has even met my best tgirl friend over dinner in a restaurant (they got along fabulously).


Ecstatic,

Wow, I just caught that. As we have previously discussed, my wife also knows and fully supports my activities with various long-time TG friends. She actually thinks its hot and permits me my latitude so long as I am "safe" and do not see escorts – a fair condition that meets with my personal preferences anyway. still, even though I occasionally take vacations with these friends, etc., I have never actually taken the step of introducing any of them to her (it never even occurred to me), and she has never asked. Maybe I should actually introduce some of them to her as they have a great deal in common other than their association with me.

-Quinn

[Ecstatic]

Quinn, my wife was accepting and curious about the girls from my very first encounter (which I told her about the evening after it happened--so ok, I cheated for a couple of hours because I just didn't know how to breach the subject, but did so afterwards and everything was just fine). She wanted to meet the first girl I knew, but the occasion has never come up (though that girl always asks me how my wife is doing). The girls I see are escorts, but I've striven very hard to become friends with these girls beyond the escort relationship. Interesting that your wife doesn't want you to see escorts; one reason I'm sure my wife is not in the least bit threatened by my seeing these girls is that they are professional, and not looking for love. She does insist that I play safe, and don't break the bank having fun.

The girl she met is a very good friend of mine. I really can't go into details, but circumstances were such that it was right for us to meet in a restaurant, and it was a very sweet evening.

It's great that you, too, have such an understanding wife. I wouldn't have it any other way. My wife doesn't want to know all the details, but she knows that if she asks me anything about my encounters, I'll tell her.

[TSMorena35]

Brave Men, I believe in that old adage "Don't fuck anyone that you wouldn't want to take home to meet mama". :lol:

[Quinn]

Interesting that your wife doesn't want you to see escorts; one reason I'm sure my wife is not in the least bit threatened by my seeing these girls is that they are professional, and not looking for love.


Your wife's logic makes perfect sense to me. I think my wife's issue with escorts are related to preconceived notions about the likelihood of disease. For me, it's simply a matter of not wanting to risk the legal consequences (and the attention they bring) that come from dealing with escorts. My business associates would not look favorably upon such developments.


It's great that you, too, have such an understanding wife. I wouldn't have it any other way.


No doubt, we are both extremely fortunate to have such understanding wives.

-Quinn

personaly its hard to believe anyone online since its easy for anyone to think about what to say and make it up,but its good to hear what people has to say about this topic.

[Harajuku Tgirl]

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[Arianna]

personaly its hard to believe anyone online since its easy for anyone to think about what to say and make it up,but its good to hear what people has to say about this topic.

I agree. Though online, people seems to BS alot. If they do..who are they really kidding? I think they're only kidding themselves.

Honesty and being true to yourself, I belive always is the best way to represent yourself. :wink: If you lie and be pretentious, later on you'll just end up in more fucked up situations and for sure it will bite you in the ass or blow up in your own face if someone is being SHADY. :shock:

~Kisses.

HTG

With "Felicia", it smelled like bullshit from the first post. That's why I suggested he show his wife his boobs. :wink:

And on MySpace there are alot, of what I'm assuming are men, saying they are various TS porn stars. There was actually a fake Moni, a fake Miriam, a fake Natasha, and the list goes on. Also people trying pretty hard to fake being celebrities like Linda Evangelista, Johnny Depp, Jim Carey, Pee Wee Herman, Cher, Anjelina Jolie, Marilyn Manson, etc. All of that is just SAD. :roll:

But sometimes they're just obviously kidding, and it can be funny. I've had JJ from Good Times, Sadam Hussein, Richard Simmons, Dr. Evil, Donald Trump, Rick James, etc, ALL on my friends list! I felt sooo lucky! :wink:

then what happens when u leave his ass, he has no family to go back too! hes left alone by both sides, this is why we keep some things in the closet

[Scott]

then what happens when u leave his ass, he has no family to go back too! hes left alone by both sides, this is why we keep some things in the closet

With all due respect. if you prefer to keep it in the closet you'd be better off just sticking to escorts.

Scott

"then what happens when u leave his ass, he has no family to go back too! hes left alone by both sides, this is why we keep some things in the closet"

why would youre family leave you when you re living youre life as a str8 man who is capable of families and a normal life,people whos family neglect them are people who are either gay or transgender,i think in youre case youre just ashamed of youre sexual preference.

[slayerpsp]

my friends dont know that i like ts girls but if i was dating a ts i wouldnt try to hide her but i also wouldnt go around saying this is my girlfriend oh by the way she is a ts its nobody bussiness who you i like. my mom knows that i like the girls with a little extra she just says what ever makes you happy

[MsDazzler]

my friends dont know that i like ts girls but if i was dating a ts i wouldnt try to hide her but i also wouldnt go around saying this is my girlfriend oh by the way she is a ts its nobody bussiness who you i like. my mom knows that i like the girls with a little extra she just says what ever makes you happy

Hmm yeah, you mean full time pre op Tgirls, right? I m still single because I m not full time yet. No one wants part time Tgirls unless they are bi. LOL

[Quinn]

personaly its hard to believe anyone online since its easy for anyone to think about what to say and make it up,but its good to hear what people has to say about this topic.

I can only assume that this is a response to a recent exchange between Ecstatic and myself. With all do respect, I understand where you may be coming from, but to define the possibilities or likelihoods of another’s lifestyle by the limitations of your own is simply a mistake. For example, while I at 5’9 cannot dunk a basketball, I am not so limited in my thinking as to believe that no one else of a similar height can either. Additionally, to assume that you are important enough to deceive over such a relatively innocuous issue is to have a grossly exaggerated view of your own importance. If you are not the IRS, then you are not even remotely important enough to lie to.

-Quinn

my friends dont know that i like ts girls but if i was dating a ts i wouldnt try to hide her but i also wouldnt go around saying this is my girlfriend oh by the way she is a ts its nobody bussiness who you i like. my mom knows that i like the girls with a little extra she just says what ever makes you happy

Hmm yeah, you mean full time pre op Tgirls, right? I m still single because I m not full time yet. No one wants part time Tgirls unless they are bi. LOLyes id say full time but it just depends on the person you are very pretty i wouldnt have a problem dating you

[slayerpsp]

my friends dont know that i like ts girls but if i was dating a ts i wouldnt try to hide her but i also wouldnt go around saying this is my girlfriend oh by the way she is a ts its nobody bussiness who you i like. my mom knows that i like the girls with a little extra she just says what ever makes you happy

Hmm yeah, you mean full time pre op Tgirls, right? I m still single because I m not full time yet. No one wants part time Tgirls unless they are bi. LOLyes id say full time but it just depends on the person you are very pretty i wouldnt have a problem dating yousorry this was me forgot to sign in

[Harajuku Tgirl]

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[wmlover4u]

my friends dont know that i like ts girls but if i was dating a ts i wouldnt try to hide her but i also wouldnt go around saying this is my girlfriend oh by the way she is a ts its nobody bussiness who you i like. my mom knows that i like the girls with a little extra she just says what ever makes you happy

Hmm yeah, you mean full time pre op Tgirls, right? I m still single because I m not full time yet. No one wants part time Tgirls unless they are bi. LOL

MsDazzler, you like most of the ladies on here, part-time or full-time are beautiful. I'd be happy to date you if I had the chance and circumstances permitted it.

Be proud of who you are.

[slayerpsp]

my friends dont know that i like ts girls but if i was dating a ts i wouldnt try to hide her but i also wouldnt go around saying this is my girlfriend oh by the way she is a ts its nobody bussiness who you i like. my mom knows that i like the girls with a little extra she just says what ever makes you happy

That's very good knowing that you share with your mom your fondness or preference to date Transexual women. Youre Mom is right, whatever makes you happy is basically thee most important thing in any person's life.

Life as it is is short to be spent holding back and then later on regreting not experiencing anything out of fear 'cos people around you might stop liking you or stop being your friends and label you this or that so forth and so on.

~Kisses.

HTGmom is real cool she had gay male friends when i was in high school and that was in the 80s when people werent as cool about it as they are now she ask me if im gay i say no because i dont like men just ts i would very much like to have a ts girlfriend it seems like a very hard thing to find a good ts hell i dont care what she does for a living as long as we care about each other

ms dazzler no matter if youre full time part time or cd if youre pretty guys would be happy to date you

[Arianna]

Hmm yeah, you mean full time pre op Tgirls, right? I m still single because I m not full time yet. No one wants part time Tgirls unless they are bi. LOL

That's not neccessarily true. Just think of your time spent as a boy as having to temporarily be a drag king. You've gotta do what you've gotta do. Trust me; some guys will understand that. And the ones who can't? That's their loss. One of the last times I did a "drag" performance , I won a title at a club I used to work at. I guess it was somewhat of a hollow victory, because I felt that "drag" was what I did when I was being a "guy". So it was kinda like winning an award for being myself! :) But believe me, I still collected my cash prize that night. Drag-schmag - it still paid for mama to get the works done at the nail salon the next day! :D What I'm saying is: if a guy has a problem with you not being fulltime, you can look back and laugh when you are. The chump didn't know what he passed up.

[MsDazzler]

ms dazzler no matter if youre full time part time or cd if youre pretty guys would be happy to date you

Aww thank you honey... but you know that most guys who like Tgirls consider themselves straight... so when they sleep with a part time Tgirl, they dont want to wake up with her looking like a man in the morning, sans the paddings and makeup.... it just makes them squirm to think that they might not be so 100% straight after all...

[slayerpsp]

ms dazzler no matter if youre full time part time or cd if youre pretty guys would be happy to date you

Aww thank you honey... but you know that most guys who like Tgirls consider themselves straight... so when they sleep with a part time Tgirl, they dont want to wake up with her looking like a man in the morning, sans the paddings and makeup.... it just makes them squirm to think that they might not be so 100% straight after all...if your sleeping with a t-girl and playing with her special pussy you are kinda gay sure you may like the fem package but most guys are there for whats down there so if you suck dick and want to play with it arent you kinda gay i think as myself as straight because im not into guys but i would hook up with you based on your pic here your very pretty as a girl as a guy i wouldnt be into it as much but when im horney i crave ass and cock so id would do you even if you wernt dressed but if i saw you out on the street as a guy i wouldnt give you a second look

[Arianna]

ms dazzler no matter if youre full time part time or cd if youre pretty guys would be happy to date you

Aww thank you honey... but you know that most guys who like Tgirls consider themselves straight... so when they sleep with a part time Tgirl, they dont want to wake up with her looking like a man in the morning, sans the paddings and makeup.... it just makes them squirm to think that they might not be so 100% straight after all...

Don't forget tho' that millions of men, who are straight, wake up next to flat-chested, flat-assed gg's wearing no makeup every morning of every day. And when you start hrt, you're going through puberty all over again anyway. Once you have no beard, a gg won't have so much on you.

Aww thank you honey... but you know that most guys who like Tgirls consider themselves straight... so when they sleep with a part time Tgirl, they dont want to wake up with her looking like a man in the morning, sans the paddings and makeup.... it just makes them squirm to think that they might not be so 100% straight after all...


ms dazzler no matter if ur cd tv fulltime post op.or what.. if i guy doesnt want to get invloved with a tranny then he wouldnt, there are a few genuine guys outthere who will like u no matter what cd.tv.fulltime you are,who are very level headed and are almost what you call str8/bi but would only date or sleep with you when you changes to a girl,ive ones dated this married guy when i first started we ended up dating he saw me as a boy on our first morning we went out..me as a boy but he had no problem with it he still knew i was the girl that he met that night,although he wouldnt sleep with me dressed a aboy back then....ive even met his two little boys it was soo romatic being with him but,like any other guys i never expect to get married with them just enjoy your life girl be youre self and never let people tell you what you should do or be if youre comfortable doing what you re doing now then that all that matters

[romeo]

I read almost all the replies but...
It's difficult to distinguish Guest1,Guest2,Guest3....why don't u login? :idea: :roll:

ie: romeo It's difficult to distinguish Guest1,Guest2,Guest3....why don't u login?

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im not here looking to be picked up and get to know any guys who are mysleading and foney...i will reveal my self to the person that i think i should get to know,and time will tell me when that will be hopefully maybe or maybe not...by the way my post was right above you romeo.

[romeo]

Guest ....I'm not here to investigate about anyone and I respect the fact that u don't want to be recognized....but posting with a nickname doesn't violate at all your privacy....it's just a matter of readability of the thread
Anyway thanks for your reply 8)

[shyguy31]

My opinion is this I think a Ts woman wants a brave man over a closet case because she wants someone in her corner thru thick and thin.Um I think most ts women get tired of all the hiding and all the shyt. Me personally I consider myself in the middle between brave and closet simply because I'm a private person and people don't need to know my business unless a situation comes up and she has to say to people she's a ts. You can be brave all you want but be smart about it