Masculinity in Tgirls

[MsDazzler]

I discussed femininity in another thread, and my argument with my brother....

On the flip side, do you think if you were raised as a man for years , even into your adulthood, would it be difficult to eradicate all masculinity from your womanhood?

[Arianna]

Well, look at it this way. As far as I know, Ru Paul still lives life primarily as a man. Who would transition better? Him, or say... Shaquile O'Neil? Both are very tall men. Now how about the musician Joe Jackson and Larry Bird? Both are very tall, but who would transition better? Btw, have you seen Joe Jackson when he turns himself into Dale de Vere? He looks pretty good. My point is, it's not about when you do it, as much as it's what's in your heart and holding onto who you are on the INSIDE; regardless of whether it was a convenient time to transition, or not. The cream always rises to the top.

[MsDazzler]

LOL... I hate the way America labels masculinity or feminity. For instance, to be feminine is to be clean all the times. oh please. barf

[wmlover4u]

I am not attracted the masculinity of anything. I love beautiful women, regardless of what is between the legs. So if any TGirl looks masculine, sorry but she is not for me.

Great question too.

[lisaparadise]

youve got to be kidding joe jackson wtf lol is she really going out with him form that song the same joe jackson send me the link to the pix please lol'

[JohnnyPaycheck]

I love his song "Stepping Out"

if youre lucky to stay femmenine and not change bone structure when you pass puberty then youre lucky,but if you get alot of growth spurt and develop boyish features than thats a pitty but theres always recontruction surgeries..to consider and sometimes theres are things you have to accept that could not be changed :wink:

[Arianna]

youve got to be kidding joe jackson wtf lol is she really going out with him form that song the same joe jackson send me the link to the pix please lol'

http://www.mondaypapers.com/jj-vs-dale.html

http://www.queenmother.tv/nycgirl/dale/dale.html

[slayerpsp]

I am not attracted the masculinity of anything. I love beautiful women, regardless of what is between the legs. So if any TGirl looks masculine, sorry but she is not for me.

Great question too. what he said i agree with you 100% if your a hott looking girl who cares whats down there

its easy for youre own nationality to destiguish the diffrence ,but maybe the height is the first thing i notice,if youre own nationality are short kinda people then they most likely clock you for that.

[MsDazzler]

yeah, asians make the most convincing transsexuals because they already have short height and frame overall

[wmlover4u]

its easy for youre own nationality to destiguish the diffrence ,but maybe the height is the first thing i notice,if youre own nationality are short kinda people then they most likely clock you for that.

I prefer to think of those of us (generally speaking all genders) as vertically challenged. I'm only 5'7" tall and a taller T-Girl does not bother me.

[MsDazzler]

hmm.... but wouldnt it make it more obvious that you r dating a Tgirl if she s taller than you?

[Chicago Guy]

hmm.... but wouldnt it make it more obvious that you r dating a Tgirl if she s taller than you?

LOL. It wouldn't at all.

Do you think everytime people see a couple where the girl is taller than the guy everyone says "OMG, I wonder if that is a Tgirl?!?!"

[MsDazzler]

i meant that if people already suspect that girl next to you is trans, her being tall is not gonna throw them off the trail. (if you are attemtping to hide the fact that you are dating a Tgirl, anyway)

[Chicago Guy]

In my opinion, there is nothing to hide. With clothes on a sexy Tgirl will look no different than a sexy woman.

its funny working on the street i see all kinds of females shapes and sizes and i have to say that alot of tgirls or even cd that i know their body was much more sexier than most genetic females,most gg their ass are too big for their build unlike most tgirls or cd theyre in perfect proportion like supermodel builds even waste and shoulders and medium curves perfect frame for supermodels

[River]

Yeah my tgirlfriend has to shave the beard, it tickles when we kiss.

[Ecstatic]

I've gone out to dinner with a tg friend of mine a couple of times who's 5'11" (6'2" in heels), and I'm only 5'8", but I didn't get the feeling that people looking at us walking down the street thought I was with a tgirl. Instead, I distinctly got the sense that a lot of guys looked at us and wondered "what's a short middle-aged dude like that doing with that total babe?" (She is incredibly beautiful; clockable if you've got a good eye, maybe, but not by the average guy.) Still, there's something about the guy being taller, and I do feel a little more comfortable with another tg friend of mine who's 5'6" (she's Thai, and also very passable).

[WillowQueen]

I'm about 5' 7" but in heels I sometimes am as tall as the guy I'm with. As for masculinity... thankfully puperty didn't do much to me. Maybe I didn't produce the usual amount of male hormones, who knows? Consider me pleased.

puberty dont remind me,although i dont regret starting later,i got to experience a the best time of my life my child hood 8) sometimes i regret sometimes i dont :lol: better to experience something than nothing :wink:

once we lay down height doesn't matter

[MsDazzler]

well, i love guys taller than me so my face can be level to his face when i wrap my legs around his hips in the shower. lol

[Ecstatic]

once we lay down height doesn't matter
That's exactly what my 5'11" friend said to me!

[AugenGn.]

Consider me pleased.

consider many of us pleased....as well, Willow...

[MsDazzler]

hmmm, if the tgirl is taller than you, do you wrap your legs around her instead? lol

[Ecstatic]

Well, I have, in fact.... :wink:

[MsDazzler]

I would give anything to see a tall, masculine man wrap his legs around a GG or a Tgirl in the opposite fashion of the stereotypical woman putting her legs around a man in the "prey" position!

[justjen]

well, im tall (5'10), so i always want to be with a guy 6' or taller...its one of the few times i ever feel self-conscience anymore, especially if im wearing any kind of heels...i know i shouldnt care, but its hard not to

[Ecstatic]

I don't know about masculine -- that's subjective -- but I'm not tall, just average at 5'8". But with a 6' girl, it's fun (and with a 5'6", it's fun in the opposite way, lol).

BTW, MsD, I love your new avatar.

[Jasadin]

On the flip side, do you think if you were raised as a man for years , even into your adulthood, would it be difficult to eradicate all masculinity from your womanhood?

MENTAL PART:
I'll use my situation to answer this one.I've lived as a man for like 34yrs.If you can call it living.I tend to think of it as more of a social disquise.I knew something was different yet remained lost.I even served in the USMC for 4yrs to try and lay "her" to rest.At my current grimy job exist the similar paradigm(did I use that word right :?: ).So basically I got the act down.For me it's a hat which I can drop at any moment while standing at the fork on the road.


PHYSICAL PART:
I think on this all the time.Constantly trying to analyze my body.What is my genetic potentail with hormones,etc...Do I have major physical traits that may hinder my efforts?Will I be a visual treat 8) or train wreck? :cry: This part is the worst for me.What did Mom & Dad give me to work with?If only I could see a after pic of myself now :lol: Am I rambling?Ok.As far as eradicating masculinity from womanhood physically I think it depend on how weak are the Y chromosome traits and how strong are the X :?: :idea:

[Ashleigh]

It's interesting fact that renaisance artists, since a lot of them were gay, would often used males as models when painting idealistic and sexual images of women. So thanks to artists like davinci the ideal image for supermodels is rather tomboyish. The fashion designers also are often gay so the clothes for women are actually designed for women with a more male shaped body (if you can see where i am going with this).

So, not to discourage tall transsexual girls here, it is quite easy to pass as a tall woman and clothes will look absolutely fabulous on you. So even if you can't afford breasts remember most supermodels have next to nothing anyway. All you need is the confidence and you'll be the most spectactular woman in any room..

Finally everybody loves tall people, even tall women, all you shortys can't help it as naturally look up to us, and we appreciate the admiration :wink:

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On the original topic of this thread I would have to say: impossible. There are always going to be aspects physically and emotionally of that male you were forced to become. I don't feel this makes you male as it is the same instance with intersex people who are forced to live in the gender they are assigned to at birth incorrectly. Interestingly enough though my ex-girlfriend was born female yet looked, acted, dressed and spoke like a man with double dd boobs and didn't take hormones to achieve this. People weren't quite sure what to call her and was refered to as he or she. She had no problems stating that she was a girl on the phone (I mean to say she was not paranoid as to how the person on the other end would react). Sadly she got called ugly and was even punched or spat on by complete strangers.

My ex used to be very involved in transsexual rights and was very helpful to many girls in dealing with the goverment to get fair and proper treatment. She had plans to take this further but due to bitchiness and stupidity that goes on within the trans-community, especially by the people who run support systems that are aimed to help us, she now wants nothing to do with us.

Transsexual girls are often so harsh by acting so conceited and picking flaws in one another. Even though we need each others support more than most human beings due to our lack of family support and difficulty in finding and maintaining an active social life. This in turn lowers our confidence, enjoyment of life and our self-esteem. Although I am sure you are aware of this fact.

So I will end by saying you are all beautiful, be good to your sisters and may fortune smile on you.